Do you like the title 'Paragon'?

Do you like the Paragon title?

  • Yes, I think it is fine. Leave it alone.

    Votes: 174 75.0%
  • No, I agree, mythic is better.

    Votes: 30 12.9%
  • No, I don't like it but I want something other than mythic.

    Votes: 19 8.2%
  • I do not like the named levels and want something else to determine power level of the game.

    Votes: 9 3.9%

Najo

First Post
I feel paragon doesn't roll off the tongue. It lacks a certain elegance and feel of D&D's heroes.

It goes: Heroic > Paragon > Epic

Paragon means in perfect form or exemplary state. Paragon sounds more of a higher being state than Epic, but Epic is already the highest levels of the game. Why not replace Paragon with something that flows better and feels like a word tied to heroic tales of sword and sorcery?

What can you suggest? I personally like Mythic and then Legendary over Paragon.

Heroic > Mythic > Epic , that progression makes the most sense to me.

What do you think?
 

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I voted for the second option (mythic sounds better, and keeps in line with hero-ic, myth-ic, ep-ic)... but I don't really mind.

If I'd be name-honcho at WotC, I'd take mythic. But paragon doesn't bother me at all.

Cheers, LT.
 

I am noting a trend of not including some sort of apathetic choice in polls like this. I didn't pick one because I would need something along the lines of "Paragon is fine, but I wouldn't mind another name like Mythic". It seems like a good chunk of the poll makers are only taking into account the more extreme views and not accomedating the moderates.
 

There should be an option for I don't give a flying fiddler's curse what it is called.

Really it is a term of art for designers and marketing people so that the punter knows that the module or whatever is aimed a characters of a certain level. No-one is going to use the term in character, my grief about warlord if that i have always felt that class names would be used in character as terms among the adventuring community. Much as wheelman, hitman and so forth are used in the criminal community.

With regard to heroic, paragon etc. I really do not care, sa long as the term are used consistently.
 


ardoughter said:
There should be an option for I don't give a flying fiddler's curse what it is called.
Precisely. Do we really need a poll about every new term that WotC comes up with?

Of course, this isn't a new term, since it was used in BECMI as one path to immortality. One of the others was Epic Hero, so I guess all three tiers can be derived from there, and their ordering is therefore arbitrary and thus an assertion that Paragon should be higher than Epic is mere opinion, or disregards the history of D&D. ;)
 




If you ask me, Mythic and Epic are essentially the same thing. If you want a literary figure of Epic power, you look at old Epics, Myths, and Sagas. I wouldn't want Mythic to be a step below Epic.

Paragon works fine.
 

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