Do you like the title 'Paragon'?

[Kintara]

Paragon works well for a single-classed character. A Rogue 15 in 4e could be described as a "paragon" of Rogueliness. Multiclass characters make the word choice slightly more dubious, but not terrible.

I don't really like Epic OR Mythic, but I can't think of anything better, at the moment. I guess Heroic, Legendary, Mythic would work....

 

[Ranger REG]

Leave paragon alone!!!

*sobs*

 

[Simon Marks]

I'd actually prefer if they renamed 'Epic' as Mythic. Paragon is fine for 11-20, and Mythic seems better for 21-30.

This.

 

[Belorin]

I'd actually prefer if they renamed 'Epic' as Mythic. Paragon is fine for 11-20, and Mythic seems better for 21-30.

How about Heroic - Epic - Mythic?

Bel

 

[Voss]

Paragon is just about perfect. It makes me think of the Song of Roland, and mighty individuals defeating whole armies. And D&D characters in their teen level have always been able to do that.

On the other hand, I'd rather see epic go in favor of Mythic. They seem to be shooting for Hercules style trials at that level anyway, so mythic fits. Epic... epic has unfortunately cheapened by the computer game industry, among others, to the point that anything and everything is epic. Play Epicwintercraftquest, join the epic adventure to find the the restroom of epic-ness! Fight epic battles with slightly too many monsters for your video card to handle (6)! With epic weapons and loot! And epic romance with 5 lines of dialogue! Its an epic of epic proportions! Its just too much of a throw-away marketing term. And I am now done ranting... ahem.

 

[Najo]

I am noting a trend of not including some sort of apathetic choice in polls like this. I didn't pick one because I would need something along the lines of "Paragon is fine, but I wouldn't mind another name like Mythic". It seems like a good chunk of the poll makers are only taking into account the more extreme views and not accomedating the moderates.

Noted, will do on the next one

 

[Najo]

And judging by the results thus far (80% for "leave it alone"), Paragon is fine the way it is.

It sure seems that way. I think I like the suggestion of Heroic, Epic, Mythic the best so far, but as you say 75-80% is pretty obvious what people prefer.

 

[Najo]

There should be an option for I don't give a flying fiddler's curse what it is called.

Really it is a term of art for designers and marketing people so that the punter knows that the module or whatever is aimed a characters of a certain level. No-one is going to use the term in character, my grief about warlord if that i have always felt that class names would be used in character as terms among the adventuring community. Much as wheelman, hitman and so forth are used in the criminal community.

With regard to heroic, paragon etc. I really do not care, sa long as the term are used consistently.

I realize this is not a in-game term, and overall doesn't really effect the game much. My main concern is people understanding the term and what it means. It is a uncommon word, and could cause some confusion in marketing is all.

 

[UngainlyTitan]

I realize this is not a in-game term, and overall doesn't really effect the game much. My main concern is people understanding the term and what it means. It is a uncommon word, and could cause some confusion in marketing is all.

Some Dragon editor once had an editorial on unusual words he learned from D&D, D&D has always being tossing obscure words about, prestidigation, lycanthrope, dweomer and so forth paragon is not out of the ordinary and if it is on a shelf adventure modules some of which are marked 'Heroic' and some 'Paragon' and some more 'Epic' and picking out one or two the punter sees in the blurb that the heroic one is for level 1 to 3 and the paragon one is 14 - 16 and the epic one is 28-30 the punter will figure out that in D&D terms paragon is higher level than heroic and not as high sa epic with out ever finding that paragon can be used as a substitute for exemplar and will still know enough to use it correctly in D&D terms.

 

[Cake Mage]

meh. Not that important to me. A level is a level is a level.

So now your level 3. Call it what you will.