D&D (2024) Do you plan to adopt D&D5.5One2024Redux?

[FrogReaver]

Well, we've had several DMs here who've said that they wouldn't allow a particular feature for various reasons.

There's going to be DMs who've had a bad experience with a certain feature with other groups and have decided to ban the feature altogether (one of the DMs at my table automatically disallows a few feats, including Lucky, for this reason).

There's also going to be DMs who'll reasonably say "I'm going to say no now so we can get back to the game, and we can have the discussion about feature later on" (another of the DMs at my table did this with a particular cantrip, but after the game decided that the players' ideas were sound).

All of that seems rather beside my point.

 

[Not a Decepticon]

You're white rooming it, and so in deep with white rooming it you want me to white room respond to your white room points.

Playtest it, or watch someone else's playtest. Trust me. If you don't think what you see is convincing, OK not much more than a few minutes lost right?

Here's one for example but it's far from the only one. Just about every playtest discovers it's far more powerful than they thought by just reading it. In fact, quite possibly overpowered.

You could really link someone better than treantmonk, someone who lost any credibility for me when he made whole video ranting how poorly designed 5e Vecna is and tried to prove it by whiterooming a scenario with builds made specifically to exploit Vecna';s weak points in a white room with no strategy or enviromental factors and also letting them just go straight from a long rest and go nova on the target. I don't trust anything he says. He made a thesis for clickbait and then cooked the playtest up to support the thesis.

Also you still haven't adressed any of my issues. Why Monk doesn't get the access to anything like weapon mastery, ensuring that, despite damage boost, it will be still tailing behind Fighter and Barbarian and make the one class that should be all about using technique look like an incompetent moron who can just mindlessly slap people and cannot think of tactics and techniques to use in combat? Why is Unarmored Defense a class feature that makes Monk easier to hit than anyone else with an armor? Why are multiple of Monk features either midigating lack of discipline points instead of just increasing the amount of discipline points? Why are multiple of Monk features worse version of something other classes can get much faster?

 

[tetrasodium]

edit: quoted the wrong post

 

[Faolyn]

All of that seems rather beside my point.

I don't think so? Because of the potential for arguments, there's several reasons why a player might go straight to magic without assuming that the DM is going to screw you over.

 

[mamba]

I’d also point out that this conversation about interpreting rules is why players always use spells whenever possible.

if the spells were as poorly phrased that would not help one bit…

 

[mamba]

Knowing is automatic, by RAW. Finding the messenger and getting them to agree to carry your message is not.

where does it say that?

 

[FitzTheRuke]

if the spells were as poorly phrased that would not help one bit…

Aside from the well established fact that magic does not need to align to the same level of "logic" as anything that connects to "mundane" ways of doing things. Magic is allowed to be "nonsense", isn't it?

 

[mamba]

Well, we've had several DMs here who've said that they wouldn't allow a particular feature for various reasons

I do not see my ‘you know no messengers in Ravenloft’ as all that different from your ‘the messenger you know, you fail to find him’…

 

[mamba]

Aside from the well established fact that magic does not need to align to the same level of "logic" as anything that connects to "mundane" ways of doing things. Magic is allowed to be "nonsense", isn't it?

but it still has to be clear what nonsense it causes

 

[FitzTheRuke]

but it still has to be clear what nonsense it causes

To not have us arguing about how it works, sure.