Do you want Tieflings in the phb?

[Talaeden_Denthiir]

Yes and Aasimar too. Make it a Planetouched race with at least these two 'talent' paths to choose from please

 

[jeffh]

I'd be inclined to include gnomes before halflings, as an aside.

Me too, although I found myself with no opinion on whether they should actually be in the PH.

I guess I asked a slightly different question than I intended to, although I like the list you gave. If you were to say "okay, you can only play these eight races" to your players, which eight (or fewer) would you pick? If the answer is "it depends on the setting" (as it very well might be), suppose this is one of the first steps in creating a new one of your own.

 

[hong]

I'm really just completely sick and tired of seeing D&D discussions dominated by Tolkienesque assumptions

They are?

 

[Aus_Snow]

Personally, I would rather they are not.

MM, MotP, whatever. Not PHB.

 

[Ashardalon]

I'd vote other - I have nothing against them to be in, but only if their Aasimar counterparts are also in.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

You know what bothers me most about Tieflings? The charisma penalty.

Plus, aasimars don't get any penalty. So I just did away with the penalty.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I knew a player who once made a character who started as a Drizzt clone, but then morphed into an even cheesier character. Note that this was in AD&D.

First he changed the race from Drow to Wood Elf, because Wood Elves got a Strength bonus. Then he went from a Ranger to a Fighter/Thief, because of Backstab, and his belief that Fighter/Thieves were just plain better than Rangers. Last but not least, instead of taking Scimitars, he took Katanas, which inflicted more damage than Scimitars. It was mind-blowing watching this guy work. He started with the base of making a Drizzt clone, and then tweaked him in the most munchkin ways he could think of.

No point to this story. I just thought it was amusing.

So all dual-wielders are drizzt clones now? No wonder there are so many of them supposed to populate the gaming tables. Hey, my character can cast light. He must be a Gandalf clone!!!

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Dude, I skipped that and went straight for the "risen succubus" PC... the kinky drow look was just one possible option...

Would never play one. The good part is a hindrance to all the fun you can have with a succubus's ability.

 

[ProtoClone]

I voted no.

As a friend pointed out to me after I voted, it seems like WotC are trying to appeal more to a WoW mentality. Now this is if they do become a playable race that is.

Why not Half Dragons instead? =P

 

[Dinkeldog]

Please stick to the discussion of Tieflings without bringing the relative merits of other races and playstyles into this, thanks.