Do you want Tieflings in the phb?

Do you want Tieflings in the phb?

  • Yes

    Votes: 193 47.8%
  • No

    Votes: 211 52.2%


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Put me down for "sure, why not?" I'm in favor of a broader spectrum of core races, and replacing either gnomes or half-orcs with tieflings is a good start.

I'm also in favor of dropping the half-elf, and replacing it with something a little more exotic.
 

MoogleEmpMog said:
If I were doing a PHB I'd include at a minimum the 'standard four' (human, dwarf, elf and halfling) plus mechanic-oriented gnomes, some type of demon-blooded, some type of angel/spirit-blooded, a cute critter/mascot race, at least one anthropomorphic animal race, warforged and orcs.

Ooh, I like that selection! I might also add something like the Catacae (from Meiville's Perdido Street Station and other books).
 

Sigdel said:
I voted no. D&D has enough Angst-ridden suck-boys as it is without having to add them in the PHB.
If they are, you might as well add in drow so they both can have the whole "ARRRG! Woe is me! I was born from evil, but I am good! Gosh darn my heritage! What is the fantasy version of Hot-Topic? For I wish to mope." thing going on.

Bah. When I play drow I usually go. "I was born from evil, and evil I am. Now let's see what you look like on the inside." Or "While some idiots say I'm born from evil, I'm not. And neither am I evil. If you have a problem with it, self-defense isn't evil."

Oh, and I have spell in my campaign. "Slay Living Cliche". :p
 

Klaus said:
I'd go one step further and instead of tieflings have a "inheritor" race. You choose your heritage from Celestial, Fiendish, Fey or Giant.

What would you inherit from a Giant, except large feet? :p
 

Baby Samurai said:
Scroll down to the 12th post and read the line just below the picture:

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=204241


Okay, wait a second -

Have we had any confirmation that the images on the jump drives that Wizards handed out all give images of player characters? Eladrin is a creature type after all, with roots back to second edition. In fact, one of the images in the thread is of a beholder - and I really, really doubt that we're going to see beholder PCs in the 4e PHB. The "Eladrin Wizard" in the picture could easily be some snipped from the Monster Manual or something.

You could make all kinds of speculations from that image -- Eladrin are already a type of "Celestial Elf" sort of creature. Going by just the image, you could just as easily speculate that Elves get to transform into Eladrin when they hit the top of their "racial progression" in 4e and become Celestial beings.
 

Baby Samurai said:
No, no, I can't stand those silly comic book names (baatezu, tanar’ri, and especially yugoloth) made up to appease the D&D is satanic crowd in the early 90's.

I also want my Typed demons back, where the Balor is simply the name of one Type VI demon!

Yugoloth is a name from Call of Cthulhu. Or I think it is. I could be wrong.
I hate the way most of the demons look in D&D. They seem so removed from what we view demons as that they are more like just another monster that you have to kill and not a FREAKIN DEMON.

Sorry, I ranted. But it's my birthday. I think I am allowed.
 

Kahuna Burger said:
As a race, no. As a bloodlines style evolving template that could be added to any base race, yes.

Now I know what's bothering me with all this: Planetouched as races instead of racial templates.

Well, It doesn't say anywhere that it's no template or anything similar.

Wasn't there some talk about giving up some of your class features and getting stronger racial stuff? Maybe that's the tiefling.

Or we get bloodline feats.
 

Holy crap, is this even.
Honestly, I don't think Tieflings should be core, but I voted yes for selfish reasons: I'm a Realms player for life, and Tieflings are a core Realms race, so I'm all for it.
But why include Tieflings and shun Aasimars?! Charisma bonuses are so juicy!
 

The_Gneech said:
No. "Planetouched" of any variety should be extreme fringe characters, not one of the basic choices right out of the box. Put 'em in the Monster Manual.

-The Gneech :cool:

I voted yes, only because i think it's a neat character concept, but as a DM, i would have to judge it on a case by case basis. If it doesn't fit the setting of the campaign then a player can't use it, even if it is a core race.

For what it's worth, i like tiefling better than gnome.
 

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