Do you want Tieflings in the phb?

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

WoW? Definetly not. Planetouched - as we know them now in D&D - have been around a lot longer than WoW. I guess they have been around longer than Blizzard, for that matter.

Not to mention there's no such creatures in WoW. Nothing even comparable.

 

[Shadeydm]

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oh the reason why i wouldnt want them is because aren't tieflings traditonally evil?

Rumor has it we will have evil paladins in 4E so I am not sure they are concerned about PC alignment anymore.

 

[DonTadow]

Rumor has it we will have evil paladins in 4E so I am not sure they are concerned about PC alignment anymore.

Even if alignment is gone, tieflings are primarily the bad guys, my big worry is that the game should still stay heroic fantasy.

Unless they change the descrptions of tiefling to more neutral like the other races.

 

[ThirdWizard]

Obviously the PC tieflings will be the only Good ones, outcasts and such.

 

[Grog]

Obviously the PC tieflings will be the only Good ones, outcasts and such.

Kinda like how the Drow turned out.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Even if alignment is gone, tieflings are primarily the bad guys, my big worry is that the game should still stay heroic fantasy.

Unless they change the descrptions of tiefling to more neutral like the other races.

Tieflings were originally described as being any Neutral or Evil in alignment, from their write-up in the Planescape Monstrous Compendium. Their original PC race write-up in the Planescape Campaign setting says they could be any alignment but lawful good (Aasimar were invented later).

The vast majority of all the iconic tiefling characters are neutral in alignment too.

 

[Nifft]

Even if alignment is gone, tieflings are primarily the bad guys, my big worry is that the game should still stay heroic fantasy.

The primary bad guys will be gnomes.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Perhaps if they are going non campaign specific they include one or two races from the setting sthey are coming out with Tiefling from planescape, drow from forgotten realms, something dragonish from dragonlance, warforged from eberron (or shifter)

I surely hope the warforged stay out of the PHB. They're not nearly classical enough to earn a seat in the council. Shifter could work, though. In the end, I'd still think the PHB races should be universal (note that this wouldn't exclude drow, since they are already in the core rulebooks of the current edition, and it wouldn't exclude anything dragonish, but that would probably be a dragonspawn, since they pushed the spawn of tiamat pretty much in the recent past. I don't think they made them just to abandon them a year later when 4e hits the shelves)

oh the reason why i wouldnt want them is because aren't tieflings traditonally evil?

Not necessarily. Their evil blood might influence them, but they're no more or less evil than, say, elves are good.

 

[Brennin Magalus]

Rumor has it we will have evil paladins in 4E...

Lame.

 

[Aus_Snow]

Lame.

On the contrary, I expect that they will be very much the equal of the good guys' preferred paladin type.