dobbelganger vs werebear

Luigiana · Feb 26, 2012

I was about to make a DG and a werebear.. a DG recieves monstrous levels which a werebear doesnt.. but does those monstrous levels count as LA too? or do you just get them for free and still only get the 5 LA a DG has normally?

emoplato · Feb 26, 2012

Luigiana said:
I was about to make a DG and a werebear.. a DG recieves monstrous levels which a werebear doesnt.. but does those monstrous levels count as LA too? or do you just get them for free and still only get the 5 LA a DG has normally?

They still count against class levels but a werebear actually does have racial hit die. They are the hit die of the animal you wish to become.

Luigiana · Feb 26, 2012

emoplato said:
They still count against class levels but a werebear actually does have racial hit die. They are the hit die of the animal you wish to become.

so a DG with a LA of 4 and 4 monstrous level and level 1 rogue has a ECL of 9?

Sekhmet · Feb 26, 2012

Luigiana · Feb 27, 2012

Sekhmet said:
Yep.

one more question.. a Dobbelganger with a LA of 4 and 4 monstrous level.. if i make a party where my players are level 10.. then what level is my dobbelganger?

Luigiana · Feb 27, 2012

Luigiana said:
one more question.. a Dobbelganger with a LA of 4 and 4 monstrous level.. if i make a party where my players are level 10.. then what level is my dobbelganger?

or i might state it otherwise so there is no confusion.. my party should be level 10.. which means my party needs 55.000 xp to gain the next level.. my dobbelganger party member.. how many levels in rogue can he get? 2 or 6?

emoplato · Feb 27, 2012

As for strict experience point levels you would have two levels of rogue and four levels of monstrous humanoid. Whenever you have racial hit die most of the abilities of the monster are tied to them. So, you could technically fore go the racial hit die but you would have a useless doppelganger and lagging rogue. As for balance you could afford him to have a couple more levels of rogue. I was never enthralled with the doppelganger when you could easily have the polymorph spell or be tearing someone's face off with a druid or werebear while he is um.... pretending to be a low level race.