D&D 4E Does anyone agree with me about 4E?

[Terraism]

You win the thread

While I have to admit, it was extraordinarily clever, we all know that Nifft has been winning too many threads lately, and thus must be suspected of being at the heart of some sort of disgusting conspiracy to artificially inflate the numbers supporting his agenda, which everyone knows is WrongBadFun.

Oh, and besides. It's very clear that Cadfan wins the thread.

I assure you that I am a gamer of extraordinary vintage. I am familiar with every last edition of D&D ever to be published, and have been playing since before your earliest recorded ancestor was born. Gaming was real gaming back then, and we took it seriously. Men died in those games. My LARP group once sacked Rome.

 

[Fifth Element]

Don't even get me started on what they're doing to Important NPC! I can't believe they're killing him off/not putting the final nail in that coffin. Without him, Campaign Setting won't be Campaign Setting anymore/can finally get out of the 80s. The novels will suck/rock now, since he's a character of great pathos/an author's wet dream in print.

I've never read any of the Campaign Setting novels or anything, but Important NPC is just a fanboy's dream and I can't stand him/her/it. I have no interest in Campaign Setting, but feel the need to post about how much I hate Important NPC.

 

[Fifth Element]

which everyone knows is WrongBadFun.

Ugh. WrongBadFun is such a 4E term. I wish they wouldn't force it on us like that. What's wrong with BadWrongFun?

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

I am outraged that they now expect us to pay for things that were never free and I never bothered to purchase.

 

[Fifth Element]

I am outraged that they now expect us to pay for things that were never free and I never bothered to purchase.

Heh. You can get everything for free, and it's totally legal. Just [edited by moderator - Privateer Puppy]

 

[Shadeydm]

As long as your opinion falls in line with WotC then you sir are 100% in the right!11!

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

I have not read the thread at all, but I am telling you this up front so it's okay ...

I have some strongly-held opinions about the small bits of information we have received so far about 4E.

I strongly disagree with an item stated in the original post, and here is a three paragraph treatise on why it is wrong, why the change / retention in the rules / flavor is a good / bad thing. I use lots of twenty-dollar words like metagame analysis, player-gamespace interface, conflate, and Gaussian distributions. I will misuse at least one word repeatedly.

EDIT:

Apparently, the OP has changed his opinion in the multitude of posts since the first, and the point which I raise has already been the subject of more than a dozen posts' worth of discussion.

Nonetheless, I will leave my mini-essay here for the edification of others.

 

[rkwoodard]

I am not a lawyer

Heh. You can get everything for free, and it's totally legal. [/I]

I am going to point out that I am not a lawyer, and the the lawyers on this thread are free to back me up or disagree with me.


RK

 

[Badkarmaboy]

As long as your opinion falls in line with WotC then you sir are 100% in the right!11!

I hasten to correct you my good sir. The only correct opinion is one which points out the inherent evil of a wotc based opinion. By agreeing with the devil you seek to subvert all that is good and holy. You sir, seek the apocalypse. You see, wotc seeks to covertly destroy D&D and replace it with a Duel Masters RPG.

I hate you with the burning fury of 1,000 suns-may you and your wotc overseers rot in hell forever and ever...amen

 

[Magus Coeruleus]

Well, MY personal opinion is that...hey, back off! It's PERSONAL!