D&D (2024) Does anyone else think that 1D&D will create a significant divide in the community?

[gorice]

Note I was very cautious about what I picked in my example (but I'll note that attributes were relatively meaningless in OD&D too, but they still go all the way back then; being significant and being expected aren't identical sets).



Note those aren't strictly game structure elements though; they're playstyle/game culture elements. You can see those (or not) in games that otherwise have no resemblance to D&D in any mechanical sense.

I think we're operating with very different ideas of what 'structure' means, then. Particularly with the 'describe what you're doing' vs. 'push a button' split: that is one of the very first rules in the PHB. It's foundational to the game's basic play loop.

 

[Micah Sweet]

If only I had Micah’s wisdom I wouldn’t be so easily manipulated into buying books I don’t need. Woe is me!

Don't worry, there's still time. The books aren't out until 2024!

 

[dave2008]

Don't worry, there's still time. The books aren't out until 2024!

But what if he needs those books!

 

[Fifth Element]

Tasha's is a supplement. You can say D&D; no Tasha's. I suppose you can say D&D 2014, not D&D 2024. Point is its the same as saying edition, its a needed concept.

Missed my point entirely. It is the same as saying edition, and we already do it all the time, and it's all still D&D.

 

[Bill Zebub]

But what if he needs those books!

Lord save me from squandering that money on yet more ill-advised Kickstarters. The longer I wait, the more I squander.

 

[Fifth Element]

I would be a terrible businessperson, because art I create is based on what I want to do and what I think is good, not what "the market" is most likely to spend money on.

Great. Since you don't do it for a living, you don't have to think about such things. But at the same time you're maligning people who DO have to think of such things, calling them malicious and/or incompetent. It's an abject failure to understand the perspective of someone who is in a very different position than you are.

 

[Fifth Element]

Which is fine. Just don't call it a playtest.

They can call it whatever they please. Reality is more imortant than labels. Don't obsess over labels.

 

[Fifth Element]

That's where I fall. I wish popularity wasn't one (perhaps the most important, who can say) of WotC's goals.

I'm the complete opposite. I'm happy when there is a thing that makes lots of people happy, even if I'm not one of them. There are lots of things that make me happy, I don't need everything to cater to my tastes. I don't WANT everything to cater to my tastes. What a dull world that would be.

 

[Fifth Element]

That isn't design. That's marketing.

So You agree it's not art, which was the point.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I'm the complete opposite. I'm happy when there is a thing that makes lots of people happy, even if I'm not one of them. There are lots of things that make me happy, I don't need everything to cater to my tastes. I don't WANT everything to cater to my tastes. What a dull world that would be.

I don't need everything to cater to my tastes either. But D&D did a pretty good job for many years, and then rather abruptly stopped.

I don't appreciate being insinuated to be selfish and not want other people to be happy. That's a label too, by the way.