D&D (2024) Does anyone else think that 1D&D will create a significant divide in the community?

[UngeheuerLich]

Or what‘s good design just isn’t popular and doesn’t sell well enough so they drop it. Like with 4E. It was amazingly designed. It was just not well received. It’s weird how people confuse “what sells” with “good design.” WotC will put out whatever sells. Doesn’t matter how good or bad the design.

Sometimes "good design" does not mean appealing, because it might be too smooth and not exciting.*

*Sometimes you love persons or thing because they are not perfect and have interesting little quirks and flaws.

 

[Swarmkeeper]

Sometimes "good design" does not mean appealing, because it might be too smooth and not exciting.*

*Sometimes you love persons or thing because they are not perfect and have interesting little quirks and flaws.

Kinda like embracing that 8 or even a 6 as one of your PC's six ability scores...

[ducks]

 

[Bill Zebub]

Kinda like embracing that 8 or even a 6 as one of your PC's six ability scores...

[ducks]

Why “duck”? Is that controversial?

 

[tetrasodium]

Why “duck”? Is that controversial?

5e's "give your players what they want" mantra is so deeply enshrined at so many levels of chargen & charop that it's weirdly controversial to even suggest that anything less than the elite array should ever be used or accepted.

/just guessing

 

[Thomas Shey]

It's easier to see malign intent if they have been giving you what you want for years and then stop.

Doesn't change my statement. Markets change; products changing with them is not a sign of malign intent. It just means the market has moved away from you.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Doesn't change my statement. Markets change; products changing with them is not a sign of malign intent. It just means the market has moved away from you.

Yes, and when that happens, people react negatively.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Yes, and when that happens, people react negatively.

Reacting negatively is one thing. Blaming designers for actually serving the market is a different story.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Reacting negatively is one thing. Blaming designers for actually serving the market is a different story.

I would be a terrible businessperson, because art I create is based on what I want to do and what I think is good, not what "the market" is most likely to spend money on. WotC's bottom line is not my concern, so if they make something I don't want to buy, I'm not giving them money for it, and I'm not going to just be fine with them continuing that trend. We're allowed to discuss products we don't care for, and if that seems to be a trend, we're allowed to discuss that too.

 

[overgeeked]

It’s also weird how people often equate “my preference” with “good design.”

Knowhatimsayin’?

Exactly. Hilariously, you seem to think that applies to me but not to you. Most in this thread cheering the changes can’t seem to separate their preferences from the quality of the design. “I like it therefore it’s good” seems to be the only statement a lot of folks are capable of making.

 

[Bill Zebub]

Exactly. Hilariously, you seem to think that applies to me but not to you.

Citation needed. Where have I expressed that?