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[Mannahnin]

Which is why I sometimes have an issue with D&D characters are "basically superheroes". It just depends on the superhero.

And the edition and level.

An 8th level Superhero mowing through massed ranks of orcs or regular soldiers in OD&D isn't Superman, but he's not an ordinary dude, either. He's explicitly supposed to be more like Aragorn, Conan, or Elric.

 

[Oofta]

And the edition and level.

An 8th level Superhero mowing through massed ranks of orcs or regular soldiers in OD&D isn't Superman, but he's not an ordinary dude, either. He's explicitly supposed to be more like Aragorn, Conan, or Elric.

Or any action movie hero, which are also not superheroes. They're James Bond, Rambo, Jason Borne or some other protagonist who takes out dozens of nameless enemies and only has a hard time with the boss opponent. Those action movie heroes just have scads of plot armor, much like PCs in most games.

 

[Mannahnin]

Or any action movie hero, which are also not superheroes. They're James Bond, Rambo, Jason Borne or some other protagonist who takes out dozens of nameless enemies and only has a hard time with the boss opponent. Those action movie heroes just have scads of plot armor, much like PCs in most games.

As you said, comic book superheroes are sometimes less powerful or extraordinary than Aragorn, Conan, or Elric.

Original Batman, for example. Or The Spirit. Or even Daredevil, or other more modern heroes, depending on who's writing them and when.

I referenced an 8th level Superhero in OD&D because I was explicitly and consciously using the language of that edition and referencing the rules of that edition in talking about the sorts of extraordinary, super-human feats of which D&D characters have been capable since the inception of the game, and the heroic pulp fantasy antecedents which they are explicitly designed to emulate.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Or any action movie hero, which are also not superheroes. They're James Bond, Rambo, Jason Borne or some other protagonist who takes out dozens of nameless enemies and only has a hard time with the boss opponent. Those action movie heroes just have scads of plot armor, much like PCs in most games.

Check out John McClane or Indiana Jones. How many hit points does it take to survive being dragged a couple of miles through Spike Stones?

 

[Clint_L]

Pretty sure the Millenials coined that. It's at least twenty years old now.

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Can confirm. I used the expression a few years ago and my teenager told me to stop being so old and cringey.

 

[CellarHeroes]

Check out John McClane or Indiana Jones. How many hit points does it take to survive being dragged a couple of miles through Spike Stones?

Raise your hand if you first read that as "...being dragged...through Spike Jones?".

I'm sure Indy's jacket offered some sort of DR.

 

[Oofta]

Check out John McClane or Indiana Jones. How many hit points does it take to survive being dragged a couple of miles through Spike Stones?

Yeah, check out . He would have died 4 times in the first movie and been incapacitated and require hospitalization multiple times.

Which is why I refer to D&D as action movie fantasy.

 

[Minigiant]

Or any action movie hero, which are also not superheroes. They're James Bond, Rambo, Jason Borne or some other protagonist who takes out dozens of nameless enemies and only has a hard time with the boss opponent. Those action movie heroes just have scads of plot armor, much like PCs in most games.

Once you start chocking up damage and HP to plot armor and plot power you can imagine the shift in power from street level, city level, nation level, planet level, and Galaxy level superheroes.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Yeah, check out . He would have died 4 times in the first movie and been incapacitated and require hospitalization multiple times.

Which is why I refer to D&D as action movie fantasy.

In 3 he falls something like 50 feet.

 

[Oofta]

In 3 he falls something like 50 feet.

Well, at least they didn't have a 5 minute long fight on a jet that was taking off.