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[Clint_L]

All this talk about heros...

I posit that D&D has become a superhero game.

I mean the effective "healing factor" of D&D PC's would put Wolverine and Deadpool to shame.

Was it ever not a super hero game? "Super hero" literally was a level title for "fighting men" all the way back in Chainmail, pre-OD&D. And characters have always had abilities that far exceed reality.

 

[teitan]

this reads more like an advertisement than a genuine post. like a 4e advertisement even. I hope you like your game.

 

[Maxperson]

All this talk about heros...

I posit that D&D has become a superhero game.

I mean the effective "healing factor" of D&D PC's would put Wolverine and Deadpool to shame.

I don't think so.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

That's how you and your people play. Please stop assuming your opinions are objective truths. How is it even possible that you can assume everyone thinks the same way you do?

I’ve played with quite a lot of people over my 43 years of RPGs, and I’ve never met anyone who wanted to play a character who was ordinary.

Even if I wanted to play that way, I doubt I could find any players.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I posit that D&D has become a superhero game

It always was. Around 1985 I remade a mid level AD&D party in my ongoing superhero game (Golden Heroes). They fitted in just fine.

The only difference between a fantasy hero and a superhero is the spandex.

 

[Corinnguard]

Obviously not. There's another thread we should be paying attention to. It does not benefit the forum community to continue posting answers and paying attention into a now-lackluster, poorly managed, off-topic thread.

A number of forum threads on EN World have lived past their Best-By-Used date and meandered off of the beaten path.

I’ve played with quite a lot of people over my 43 years of RPGs, and I’ve never met anyone who wanted to play a character who was ordinary.

Ordinary from their point of view. Then they mention what they do for a living, and everyone just stares at them in disbelief. "You did all of that and still think you're ordinary?!?"

 

[Micah Sweet]

I’ve played with quite a lot of people over my 43 years of RPGs, and I’ve never met anyone who wanted to play a character who was ordinary.

Even if I wanted to play that way, I doubt I could find any players.

You didn't say "ordinary". You said "heroes". Those aren't the only two options, even if I agreed ordinary wasn't a thing (which I dont). Have you ever heard of Dungeon Crawl Classic's character funnel? That's all about ordinary people, and DCC is definitely a D&D-adjacent game.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

You said "heroes". Those aren't the only two options

I'm using the word heroes in the same way Conan is a fantasy hero - they are far superior to average people, and generally do the right thing, even if not necessarily for the right reasons. I don't consider "hero" to mean a paragon of virtue. Most heroes are not Captain America.

Have you ever heard of Dungeon Crawl Classic's character funnel?

Yes. I don't understand why anyone would want to play it though.

 

[Kaiyanwang]

I don't consider "hero" to mean a paragon of virtue.

The root for the Indo-European word "Hero" comes from is "protector" or "defender" unless I am mistaken.
... but the meaning was already altered in ancient Greece, with the heores more bound to honor and glory than actual virtue, and while great killers and able to show great strength, they are also, like their gods, incredibly flawed and often cause misery to their loved ones and followers.
Probably what is more "modern heroic" is closer to the concept of chivalric virtues, I presume.
But it also means that both interpretations of the word are correct.

 

[CellarHeroes]

Yes. I don't understand why anyone would want to play it though.

You've got to get to level 1 somehow.