Dragonlance Draconian from Shadow of the Dragon Queen!

[RuinousPowers]

Why does their armor not cover their heart and lungs?

Hey, that Bozak isn't going to explode itself!

 

[Sacrosanct]

Why does their armor not cover their heart and lungs?

Maybe because as soldier fodder (which is what they really are), they are more dangerous dead than alive, so that might be intentional. Dunno, just throwing out guesses.

 

[Vaalingrade]

I think it's an entirely suitable body shape for a human too.

I demand this become at least as big a controversy as 'dragon boobs'.

 

[Umbran]

What's the difference? I don't mean to sound flippant, it's a serious question because I can't tell the difference between dragonborn illustrations and the top image in the OP.

Well, in all the armor and such, how much should one really be able to tell the difference between humans, orcs, and elves? Or like, orcs and hobgoblins?

 

[Umbran]

Why does their armor not cover their heart and lungs?

Because fantasy illustration armor design isn't based on actually protecting body parts.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Well, in all the armor and such, how much should one really be able to tell the difference between humans, orcs, and elves? Or like, orcs and hobgoblins?

Even without armor (in fact I was ignoring it) I can't tell a difference between dragonborn and draconians

 

[Warpiglet-7]

I think it's an entirely suitable body shape for a human too.

I have a penchant for heavier characters and lament not always having a mini that fits the image.

2 of my favorite characters have had more than a little paunch!

 

[Vaalingrade]

Why does their armor not cover their heart and lungs?

Sex appeal.

 

[Ixal]

What's the difference? I don't mean to sound flippant, it's a serious question because I can't tell the difference between dragonborn illustrations and the top image in the OP.

Maybe that's why I've never been a huge fan of dragonborn, because I grew up in D&D with draconians being the bad guys.

Because if WotC would use dragonborn as draconians it would also mean that draconians would not be as powerful as they originally were as they still have to be useable as player race and also the iconic abilities would be toned down to be player character compatible. And that would imo devalue draconians a lot.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Hey, that Bozak isn't going to explode itself!

okay but there is a tactic in purposefully sending your draconian out to die and pop killing more soldiers... anyone they kill on the way TO the pop is bonus. Imagine the fear of engageing an enemy that can if you WIN kill your men.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I have a penchant for heavier characters and lament not always having a mini that fits the image.

2 of my favorite characters have had more than a little paunch!

on roll20 we use pictures from the web alot. do you know how hard it is to find D&D art of slightly overweight characters is (not impossible, but it takes some digging).

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

If I want in my game the dragoborns are the runt version of the draconians. The lineage was created, but the production was stopped because dragonborns didn't want to be Takhisis' canon fodder and they deserted when they could, and if it was necessary, the officials suffered "accidents". And because producing draconians was faster than dragonborns, because these need more time to mature and become capable to fight.

 

[Twiggly the Gnome]

Because fantasy illustration armor design isn't based on actually protecting body parts.

Armors in RPG games be like

youtube.com

 

[Sacrosanct]

Because if WotC would use dragonborn as draconians it would also mean that draconians would not be as powerful as they originally were as they still have to be useable as player race and also the iconic abilities would be toned down to be player character compatible. And that would imo devalue draconians a lot.

Ah, I misread your comment. You're talking mechanically, and I'm talking visually.

 

[Ixal]

Ah, I misread your comment. You're talking mechanically, and I'm talking visually.

Visually the draconians are also rather distinct. Especially their colourations which links them to the true dragons. Also several of them have wings which dragonborn lack.

Also draconians without tails? Just no. Too human looking for what is supposed to be mutated dragons.
Also, if visually they would look like dragonborn it would also make it more likely that mechanically they also would be.

 

[Warpiglet-7]

on roll20 we use pictures from the web alot. do you know how hard it is to find D&D art of slightly overweight characters is (not impossible, but it takes some digging).

I do! I drew my fat barbarian myself.

I am currently playing a heavy cleric of wee Jas. I tried to do a fatter character on herofirge but it too was lacking

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I do! I drew my fat barbarian myself.

I am currently playing a heavy cleric of wee Jas. I tried to do a fatter character on herofirge but it too was lacking

I mean for all the talk of 'seeing yourself' it is one of those things . I guess we all want ourselves but more inshape (in theory)

 

[Warpiglet-7]

I mean for all the talk of 'seeing yourself' it is one of those things . I guess we all want ourselves but more inshape (in theory)

Well I want this image I have.

Like with the paunchy dragon kin or whatever.

Like a scar or a beard a paunch can just add
Character.

When I play “fat” I do identify as someone who can be paunchy! I often play high strength and low dex.

My fat cleric will bear hug ya with his 16 str. But is probably not doing ballet with his dex of 8. He does overeat when they feast. He happens to be food focused which is fun.

Well food and magic/power obsessed but he is an individual! I enjoy his power and food obsessed self!

 

[Marandahir]

Reminder here that Draconians are also the Spellscale Dragonborn subrace in Exandria, but when WotC officially published Explorer's Guide to Wildemount, they edited the name of the subrace to Draconblood Dragonborn, and in the subsequent 3rd Party Tal'dorei Reborn, they were called Dragonbloods, all because WotC wanted to make clear that these are not Krynn's Draconians.

Draconians have a very specific identity in D&D, and Fizban's brought them from Krynn to the rest of the D&D Multiverse. Glad we're finally exploring them now, between last year's book and this year's.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Well I want this image I have.

Like with the paunchy dragon kin or whatever.

Like a scar or a beard a paunch can just add
Character.

When I play “fat” I do identify as someone who can be paunchy! I often play high strength and low dex.

My fat cleric will bear hug ya with his 16 str. But is probably not doing ballet with his dex of 8. He does overeat when they feast. He happens to be food focused which is fun.

Well food and magic/power obsessed but he is an individual! I enjoy his power and food obsessed self!

right there with you...