Dragonborn: Boobs or No Boobs?

[Lord Fyre]

Okay, let's try from a different direction.

Here is another reason not to give Dragonborn female mammary glands.

In fantasy gaming settings, human women (not girls) are not getting the respect that they deserve!

• Human women are beautiful.
• Human women have boobs. (I don't mean human men/boys in this instance)

So, we don't need female dragonborn to provide sufficient "cheesecake" for Dungeons & Dragons.

 

[JohnSnow]

Ah. I knew someone would pull the hexapod thing out. How predictable.

But still, if they aren't tetrapods they *really* can't be mammals. So still no mammaries.

Are you suggesting that Centaurs (also hexapods) should also lack boobs? Blasphemy!

It's fantasy. I don't care really. But just to be contrary, I voted for dragonborn boobs.

More seriously, I'd like to see their backstory make sense with their appearance. If they're a naturally-evolved race, then the boobs should go. However, if the backstory of Dragonborn origins is that they are a truebreeding race descended from ancient humans who made a pact with dragons (just as the tieflings are descended from humans who made a pact with devils), then it would stand to reason that the dragonborn would more closely resemble their ages-past human forebears. Which would mean breasts for females.

So, in other words, let's see the art match the flavor text.

My two cents.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

Since they're fairly obviously meant to be reptilian, obvious mammary glands are probably not called for, as they bend the sense of disbelief too far. Heck, dragons have never been mentioned in existing fluff nursing their young, why should dragonborn? For that matter, do lizardmen or troglodytes nurse? No? Okay, then.

Some form of dimorphism is called for, like the aforementioned size difference, crests, coloration, etc.

Brad

 

[Midknightsun]

obvious mammary glands are probably not called for,

Obvious mammary glands are always called for. . . . always.

 

[James Heard]

All I'm sayin' is that you guys can say "No boobs" all you like, but once artists get a hold on them they're going to be green, scaly, and they're probably going to have boobs anyway (even if they're just "suspiciously large chest plates with rounded shapes that conveniently form cleavage") Either that, or you're going to end up with lizards in lipstick and frankly if there's lipstick involve I'd rather have the boobs to go along with it just so other associations don't get made.

 

[Imp]

Great, so when do we get to the thri-kreen jubblies?

 

[Nifft]

Great, so when do we get to the thri-kreen jubblies?

And remember, they're hexapods, so they get EXTRA jubblies.

-- N

 

[mara]

All I'm sayin' is that you guys can say "No boobs" all you like, but once artists get a hold on them they're going to be green, scaly, and they're probably going to have boobs anyway (even if they're just "suspiciously large chest plates with rounded shapes that conveniently form cleavage") Either that, or you're going to end up with lizards in lipstick and frankly if there's lipstick involve I'd rather have the boobs to go along with it just so other associations don't get made.

What other associations?

 

[Cadfan]

I have to ask again.

Do we have any pictures here?

Because my opinion changes depending on the overall appearance of the dragonborn. If we're talking "people with scales," then they need breasts on the women or else they'll just look weird. If we're talking "lizards that walk upright," then breasts WILL look weird.

And for what its worth, giving the dragonborn breasts isn't automatically fan service. I'm usually the fan service police, and even I understand the difference between a woman having breasts (most do), and a woman being fan service.

 

[Stormtalon]

I have to ask again.

Do we have any pictures here?

Because my opinion changes depending on the overall appearance of the dragonborn. If we're talking "people with scales," then they need breasts on the women or else they'll just look weird. If we're talking "lizards that walk upright," then breasts WILL look weird.

And for what its worth, giving the dragonborn breasts isn't automatically fan service. I'm usually the fan service police, and even I understand the difference between a woman having breasts (most do), and a woman being fan service.

As I have the book, here's a description that should help:

They're heavily scaled (scales seem thick and distinct), muscular humanoids: digitigrade legs, heads and facial features quite draconic (sorta remind me of 3.x copper dragons as far as faces go), arms and torsos perhaps a bit more humanlike than lizardmen, stance is decidedly more upright for sure despite the legs, and they've got a heavy, muscular tail.

That enough info to go on sans picture?