Dragonlance [Dragonlance/Faerun] Anyone here met any Cataclysm/Wall of the Faithless defenders?

[Ibrandul]

Wall haters will be pleased to note that the new errata to the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide, released today, entirely deletes that book's reference to the Wall of the Faithless—erasing the one and only reference to the Wall in published D&D 5e material.

 

[Zardnaar]

Wall haters will be pleased to note that the new errata to the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide, released today, entirely deletes that book's reference to the Wall of the Faithless—erasing the one and only reference to the Wall in published D&D 5e material.

Sigh. Not really that big a deal as no such .

 

[Ibrandul]

My guess would be they killed off the Wall as part of their recent efforts to eliminate "problematic" elements from current game materials.

R.I.P. Wall of the Faithless.

(After it perished, the Wall was found to have denied the gods, and as punishment, its soul has been mortared into the Wall of Faithless Walls.)

 

[Alzrius]

Wall haters will be pleased to note that the new errata to the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide, released today, entirely deletes that book's reference to the Wall of the Faithless—erasing the one and only reference to the Wall in published D&D 5e material.

For ease of reference, here's the section in question (the two paragraphs under the header "The Afterlife," on page 20), with the errata'd part struck through:

Most humans believe the souls of the recently deceased are spirited away to the Fugue Plane, where they wander the great City of Judgment, often unaware they are dead. The servants of the gods come to collect such souls and, if they are worthy, they are taken to their awaited afterlife in the deity's domain. Occasionally, the faithful are sent back to be reborn into the world to finish work that was left undone.

Souls that are unclaimed by the servants of the gods are judged by Kelemvor, who decides the fate of each one. Some are charged with serving as guides for other lost souls, while others are transformed into squirming larvae and cast into the dust. The truly false and faithless are mortared into the Wall of the Faithless, the great barrier that bounds the City of the Dead, where their souls slowly dissolve and begin to become part of the stuff of the Wall itself.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Wall haters will be pleased to note that the new errata to the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide, released today, entirely deletes that book's reference to the Wall of the Faithless—erasing the one and only reference to the Wall in published D&D 5e material.

I’m not surprised. I’ve seen chatter in various places about it amongst younger gamers, long before this thread.

A lot of folks are tired of fiction trying to make them relive crap they deal with IRL, like being told they’re going to suffer cosmic punishment for not worshiping god/the right god.

 

[Mirtek]

Technically that doesn't get rid of the wall. In absence of newer lore stating the opposite, the old lore about the wall is still in effect. It merely precents someone stumbling upon it without deeper looking through FR material

 

[Eltab]

Hm. Per the quote above, the 5e Wall is was not a torturous experience. It is was just a place to 'be' while your soul fades away.

 

[Olrox17]

Interesting. Through errata, the Wall gets censored (for lack of a better word) out of SCAG, presumably to avoid hurting somebody's feelings, but this phrase remains intact:
"Some [referring to unclaimed souls] are charged with serving as guides for other lost souls, while others are transformed into squirming larvae and cast into the dust". Like that's a better fate than the Wall!

Whatever, WotC deciding to withhold lore details in a book doesn't change anything, anyway. The lore stays the same. Wasted opportunity on WotC's part to expand the Wall's lore, instead of clumsily sweeping it under the rug.

 

[Chaosmancer]

Interesting. Through errata, the Wall gets censored (for lack of a better word) out of SCAG, presumably to avoid hurting somebody's feelings, but this phrase remains intact:
"Some [referring to unclaimed souls] are charged with serving as guides for other lost souls, while others are transformed into squirming larvae and cast into the dust". Like that's a better fate than the Wall!

Whatever, WotC deciding to withhold lore details in a book doesn't change anything, anyway. The lore stays the same. Wasted opportunity on WotC's part to expand the Wall's lore, instead of clumsily sweeping it under the rug.

Probably because that is referring to Evil souls heading to the Abyss. That is where soul larva live.

 

[cbwjm]

Probably because that is referring to Evil souls heading to the Abyss. That is where soul larva live.

It doesn't say that though, nothing in there mentions the Abyss or that this is where those squirming larvae will end up. In fact nothing about these souls mentions anything about whether or not they are evil, only that they are unclaimed by the gods. They could be paragons of virtue but they still suffer the same fate as the so-called evil souls.