Druid & Monk

[nimisgod]

There is one thing that might stop you from taking a Monk level: Favored Class. This is of course, assuming that you didn't house rule it away or something.

 

[Camarath]

how would monk levels work with druid levels in terms of attacks per round and natural weapon damage? for example if i was part monk and part druid could i wildshape into a Legendary ape and break out with my kung fu?

It is my opinion that nothing in the rules allows one to use Natural Weapons as Monk Weapons or in Unarmed Strikes.

 

[Scion]

I have played a monk/druid. While I definately appreciated the extra power from the monk level being behind by a level for shapechange and spellcasting always found a way to be a pain in my side. However, if you are already large size then it might not be as big of a problem for you. Go for it! if you can get by the exp penalty somehow. If you are going to have the penalty though then dont do it, you are better off with the extra exp.

 

[Sejs]

Kung fu as a dire bear would be even better

And thanks to that good old John West salmon commercial, we even have a visual reference for such an occasion!

As for the Ape... heh, makes me think back to Shadowrun, where at one point we had a troll (sr trolls are similar to d&d ogres) street sam who took levels of the troll version of monkey style kung fu - gorilla style.

 

[Lerris]

well I'm playing a Dwarven Druid(lvl 5) who took a Level of Fighter before he started the druid levels and somehow i'm the only spell caster in my group of 5 but as too taking a few levels in monk I personally wouldn't at least not at the level you are at maybe consider it at Level 10 but not before.

 

[Tatsukun]

Thoughts

IIRC, an unarmed attack and a natural attack are different. So, if you are a level one monk and you wild shape into a dire bear you can either take your monk attacks/damage OR the bear’s.

We have always thought of it a ‘wielding a non monk weapon’ (in this case the weapons are ‘claws’ and ‘bite’). You are proficient (because of the druid levels), but you can’t flurry / stunning blow because they are not monk weapons.

On the other hand, if you use the monk damage / attacks, you DO get that huge strength bonus, not to mention all that natural AC.

Sounds fun.

Of course, as a DM, you would have to do some serious explaining why your wild guardian of the wood spirit suddenly decides to become a monk (hard core lawful, controlled).

I, personally, don’t let people pick up monk (or sorcerer) mid-game unless they actually do something in game for it; such as going to a monastery and study for a few years. But that’s just me.

-Tatsu

 

[Ransom]

Does a wildshaped monk get the monk damage associated with his new size?

 

[Camarath]

Does a wildshaped monk get the monk damage associated with his new size?

I believe so .

 

[Ottergame]

Does a wildshaped monk get the monk damage associated with his new size?

Yes, but the animal form's claw/bite/whatever damage won't increase, only it's unarmed damage. Meaning, a brown bear can either do a claw attack at 1d8 or 1d8 for an unarmed attack. The claw damage won't increase.

 

[Darklone]

I may be so nice to let my monk/druid waste hordes of NPC mooks wildshaped into a big bad bear or cheetah, but I will not let him use monk damage nor monk weapons in animal shape.

John West Salmon commercial showed us one thing: No matter that your kungfu reaches the stars and hits as deep as the ocean, a good kick against the shin and grab for the goodies always wins.

Yupp, XP penalties are no issue in my group. Spellcasting might hurt, but we already got another druid (archer) and two clerics in the group... so his schtick will rather be to burrow throw heaps of enemies. He's planning to take Whirlwind soon.

What's the nicest choice of wildshape to get ONE big bad attack with 9 HD? Dire wolf?