Dungeon 114 Cover

[BryonD]

Logo: Don't love it, don't hate it. It's a logo. It's not flashy, but it's easier to read, and I do kinda like the whole "retro" thing.

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Overall feeling of the whole situation? Thumbs up. I'd already resubscribed, but if I hadn't, I would be.

That is pretty much exactly my opinion as well.

 

[HiLiphNY]

I think it looks great. . . .Nice job!


That said, I'd love to see a cover with the party getting the tar beaten out of it! C'mon, now that would be a refreshing change. It reminds me of the 4th Ed. Hero/Champions book where on every other cover, one of the Iconic characters, Seeker, was always getting a serious beating! It was a great inside joke, and a refreshing artistic change.

 

[Pielorinho]

This is looking pretty good to me; I might resubscribe as well. I'll probably pick up a copy first at the FLGS, and then decide.

Daniel

 

[diaglo]

Can't wait to see it in the flesh, er, pulp - which is about 6 weeks from now, given the speed of my local books a million. Maybe I should seriously ask for a Dungeon and dragon subscrip as a Christmas present from the family...

why would you want to do that. so you can get it later?

 

[Estlor]

My thoughts:

A logo does not sell me a magazine. I don't care how they write "Dungeon" or "Dragon," the content is what makes me buy it. That said, the new logo WILL serve the purpose. It'll be easy to find in the bookstore magazine rack given the big, bold, retro letters.

Part of me likes the change in content and part of me doesn't. The part that doesn't is because instead of just buying Dragon, I now have to buy both. And, though my wallet will hate me, that's a good thing. I never bought Dungeon in the past because I had no desire for prefab mini adventures on a monthly basis. Mix those adventures with DM specific content and you have something solid to build on.

Overall, it should be a good boost for Dungeon.

 

[Sorren]

Meh... I guess it's ok. No strong feelings either way. The art is cool though.

You know what I'd really like to see? I'd like to be able to pay $2 or $3 for a PDF copy that I could download from Paizo's website.

 

[fanboy2000]

Isn't it time Paizo realized their market is a relatively closed group with little recently demonstrated potential for growth?

If Paizo admits that, then there is no reason to continue to publish Dungeon magazine.

When Dungeon went monthly with 60/40 contente ech issue flip-floping between Polyhedron and Dungeon, it was because neigher magazine could sustain itself.

Think about it, when Living Greyhawk was shoehorned into Dragon, they didn't go flip cover, they just put it in there, and far fewer people complained about that than what happened to Dungeon. Why? Because dosen't need the boost in circulation that Dungeon does.

The number of DMs is small than the numbers of Players
The number of DMs who run published adventures is small than the number of DMs who don't

Adventures used to be published in Dragon, and there was a debate wether they could support a magazine. Dungeon was always smaller, hence why it was only bi-monthy.

Back in the early days of TSR, modules were how TSR made money. More DMs ran modules, and more modules were published. Heck, Dragonlance didn't start out as a boxed set, it started out as an adventure. Ravenloft? Same thing.

Somewhere along the way, some people got the idea that real DMs don't use published adventures. I had a friend (who worked at a game store) telling me that Dungeon was still putting out the same dungeon-crawling crap. (Not true.) What he didn't like was that there were any Dungeons that could still be looted at all.

Magazines do not compete with eachother, they compeat with anything else you could spend your time doing. Hobby magzines aren't any diffrent. Dungeon has to convince current D&D players that it's worth spending the money on the magazine rather than creating your own adventures.

People don't buy a magazine becaue of the cover, but they do pick magzines of the shelf and leaf through them because of the cover.

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

I like the artwork and the general cover layout, but I am not big on the font chosen for the title. To me it looks a little too comic-bookish. I sure for some people, that is a good thing, but not me. That said, it's certainly not going to keep me from picking up issues.

 

[ecliptic]

That has to be the worst logo I have ever seen.

 

[Bagpuss]

i know i'm just a drop in the bucket, but this change has lost Paizo at least one formerly loyal customer.

I'm another drop in the bucket. While I think the split is a logical move, the removal of Polyhedron kills Dungeon for me (although, I might buy the odd issue). Dragon hasn't had an article I've used in ages.

The new logo stinks.