Dwarf tank with good saves Questions

[Biggs6434]

Hello there. First time posting on these forums but I have been reading them for awhile.

Here is my question:

Will this tank build work? Keep In mind I am not trying to taunt anything.....just be really hard to kill.

Dwarf Ranger1/ Fighter4/ Deepwarden 2

Feats would be:

-Improved toughness
-Steadfast Determination
-Endurance
-Lightning Reflexes
-Sheild Specialization
-Improved Init.

With these feats and the class selections It looks like to me that by lvl 7 I will have a:
7 reflex save(including Dex, and lightning reflexes feat)
11 fort (inclusing Con, assuming I roll a high stat for my Con score)
8 will save (including Dwarf racial, Class will save, and steadfast determination)


The only reason I took ranger was mainly for the +2 reflex save at first level. I know I lose a bonus feat and the hp loss. But I gain +2 refelx save, 6+2x4 skill points vs 2+2x4 for a fighter. Also I get a favored enemy with which I decided to take the arcane hunter character option so my favored enemy is anything that casts arcane spells.

As for the 2 lvls of deepwarden, I was looking at those for the 2nd lvl deepwarden feat of Stonewarden that allows you to replace your Dex bonus to armor with your Con bonus. I was doing this thinking that once I get this feat I could drop the full plate ad pick up a mithril chain shirt. That would allow me to max out my Con bonus to armor and inturn give me a little extra armor total in the process as well as greatly decreasing my armor check penalty.

So Con would by far be my best friend since it adds to armor class with the deepwarden ability and replaces my Wis with Con for steadfast Determination for will saves.

Please let me know what you think and also please give any input. I am looking into Dwarven Defender at level 10 as well but my main focus is these first 7 levels. Also I am sorry for any lame spelling mistakes ><

 

[parinho7]

no dwarven defender, primeval and fist of the forest

 

[RUMBLETiGER]

Just to ask the question for all those who will post after me:

-Are you specifically looking to see if that build will accomplish what you're setting out to do?
If that is your goal, then I can confirm that this character would have decent HP, AC and saves for level 7. You'd be a tough bugger to kill with attacks and spells with saves.

...or...

-Are you asking for or open to suggestions of other possible builds that might better accomplish the goals you've stated?

If it's the second, what books/materials are available to you? many of us who frequent the forums forget that not everyone has and is allowed to use every 3.x book ever published.

 

[Biggs6434]

I am for sure open to any ideas anyone else has. The DM has said that any 3.0-3.5 book will do and I have access to them all. My DM, as well as myself, has not spent any time with anything after 3.5.

 

[Dandu]

I am for sure open to any ideas anyone else has. The DM has said that any 3.0-3.5 book will do and I have access to them all. My DM, as well as myself, has not spent any time with anything after 3.5.

I have a cunning plan.

 

[Hassassin]

I had a Deepwarden based IIRC on, Rgr 3/Ftr 2. You lose on average two hit points, but get a lot more skill points and a combat style. You get endurance for which you would have used the fighter feat anyway.

Edit: I think I was actually Brb 1/Rgr 3/Ftr 1, now that I think about it...

 

[Shin Okada]

IMHO, fort and will are more important than ref to be a tough tank. A failed ref save often mean higher damage. But with high HPs, you can withstand. But a failed fort or will often incapacitate you immediately.

Taking a level of Dragonslayer (Draconomicon) is not a bad idea. It will give you +2 fort/+2 will and also make you immune to fear. Being immune to fear is very useful for a melee tank. You need Dodge & Iron Will feats to meet the prerequisite. But both of those feats suit your goal (higher AC and Save).

 

[Biggs6434]

Ill have to check the Draconomicon out. I dont have it but my DM does.

 

[Jackinthegreen]

Just warning you, if Heroes of Horror is in play you might find that immunity to fear won't help. Dread Witches of 4th level or higher specifically pierce through that immunity. In the vast majority of cases though, immunity to fear will be very useful.

 

[Biggs6434]

Yea, fear immunity would be great. My DM loves to use dragons and he sure does like to use thier fear ability. He has us adventuring around a "main story". Evil blue dragon tryin to take over the world kind of thing.