D&D 5E Dwarves: too good as fighters?

[FadedC]

It's (10-4)/2=3. This is actually covered in the first couple pages of the PHB.

Good question here, what is the order of operations for damage taking?

Is it:

10 / 2, then -4 = 1?

Or 10 - 4 = 6 / 2 = 3?

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Half Orc's are just as strong and get a cool power then gives them extra damage on crits.

 

[SigmaOne]

So...we finally get to an edition where wizards can cast in full plate....but a barbarian can't get angry wearing chain mail?

They can still get angry while wearing chain mail; they're just not comfortable enough to tap into that rage to their benefit. Too distracted by the chafing.

 

[Psikerlord#]

Barbarians don't get heavy armor. Also Plate Armor is super expensive.

Fighter 1, barb xxxx does.... I actually love that super durable concept for a rager fighter/barb, sweet! ?.. oh no, just realised you cant rage in heavy armour apparently, boo!

 

[Zardnaar]

I'm still using basic but it seems dex based fighter is better as the AC difference is only one and even if you use a two handed weapon+great weapon style just pick dual wielding instead. Outside of using a THW and even then vs dual wielding I can't see much incentive to take a strength based fighter but I would have to look at feats and things like variant human racial to get a better idea.

 

[TwoSix]

So...we finally get to an edition where wizards can cast in full plate....but a barbarian can't get angry wearing chain mail?

Heavy armor can't accommodate the stretching of mighty thews.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

So...we finally get to an edition where wizards can cast in full plate....but a barbarian can't get angry wearing chain mail?

We now advertise it as "mellow mail". Need to calm a raging barbarian? Throw our patented "mellow mail" chain over him!

 

[Dausuul]

To me, the benchmark for any race/class is, "How does it stack up to a human of the same class?" The dwarf fighter is competitive with a human fighter, but not noticeably ahead of it--that bonus feat is huge.

(Also, the mountain dwarf is a better fighter than the hill dwarf IMO. +2 Strength beats +1 Wisdom/+level hit points in my book.)

 

[MonsterEnvy]

To me, the benchmark for any race/class is, "How does it stack up to a human of the same class?" The dwarf fighter is competitive with a human fighter, but not noticeably ahead of it--that bonus feat is huge.

(Also, the mountain dwarf is a better fighter than the hill dwarf IMO. +2 Strength beats +1 Wisdom/+level hit points in my book.)

Though the armor proficiency it gives is worthless for flighty types sadly.

 

[Quartz]

1) Flavor, for starters.

Flavour takes second place to fun, and it's not fun for a player to see their otherwise identical character outclassed ab initio.

2) How about a +1 to ALL SIX ability stats, or a free feat that you otherwise won't get until 4th level? That's pretty tempting.

I'm not so sure. A +2 to one stat at the start is far better than two +1s - looking at the Basic Rules I'd eyeball it at three.

But going back to the fun part, non-humans get fun abilities like darkvision and Lucky and poison resistance and proficiencies. Humans don't get any of that fun stuff. Even choosing the alternative of one +2, a feat, and a proficiency still leaves them behind (and I'll remind you that the Basic Rules lacks feats).