Eberron - Extreme Explorer PrC

I agree that this is a pretty "generic" class, but is that inherently bad? I'd say it's more reflective of personality and disposition as opposed to "career," but you could say the same of the distinction between the fighter and the swashbuckler (a class I love, BTW).

This isn't pretendign to be a prestige class based around being part of a guild or secret society. It's not even that "prestigious" given its low entry requirements. It's a way to take any character and give them background to be more of a daredevil, like Rugger said.

[quoteI got the exact impression from this article that it is a core feature. That there are feats available to any class. The Extreme Explorer simply gains more points and some extra feats/abilities to use them with.[/quote]
That's my impression, too.

Taking it to absurd levels you'd have the "Powerpuff Commoner" core class, which is simply a standard guy who sacrificies BaB, Saves, all abilities, skills and feats for action points. He's able to do almost anything he wishes... bah!
Actually, the notion of characters who are ordinary but lucky is pretty flavorful and well-rooted in the fantasy (and pulp) tradition. But as far as the game mechanics go, I think you overestimate action points. You can't expect action points to make up for a lack of focus. Mathematically speaking, they can help you fail less miserably or succeed more dramatically, but they're not going to make anyone a Rennaisance man.

If you're worried that this campaign is about powergaming or something, don't worry. Aside from the new crunch like action points, the campaign setting book is all about flavor. The origin of the Mournland, the philosophy of the Undying Court, the fact that almost every PrC other than the extreme explorer is very specifically organization-based... there's some very cool on the way and a lot of fluff for roleplayers to enjoy. "Swashbuckling action" is one half of the core description of Eberron, but don't forget about the "intrigue" part.

For comments from Keith on action points, click here.
 

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:wanders into thread, looks around:

Joe Poster: "I haven't seen much at all of the final product, but I can tell right now that it is totally teh suXX0rz!!!"

:sighs, leaves thread, continues to look forward to Eberron:
 



buzz said:
:wanders into thread, looks around:

Joe Poster: "I haven't seen much at all of the final product, but I can tell right now that it is totally teh suXX0rz!!!"

:sighs, leaves thread, continues to look forward to Eberron:
ding ding ding!
 

buzz said:
:wanders into thread, looks around:

Joe Poster: "I haven't seen much at all of the final product, but I can tell right now that it is totally teh suXX0rz!!!"

:sighs, leaves thread, continues to look forward to Eberron:

Dread is just as an appropriate response as anticipation. If there's something to look forward to, there's similarly something to dread.
 

Pbartender said:
I fixed that for you, Buzz.
Heh. :cool:

Trickstergod said:
Dread is just as an appropriate response as anticipation. If there's something to look forward to, there's similarly something to dread.
I suppose, but does it *always* have to be the predmoinant response, particularly to new products by WOTC? I mean, e.g., wocky is really stretching it with that complaint about Action Points; hit points are just about as nebulous (and, frankly, IMHO, it's about time D&D had some sort of drama/action/hero point mechanic). It just seems like poeple are desperately fishing for things to hate about Eberron, and we've barely seen any of it yet.

But, I suppose this is The Way of Things among wacky subcultures like ours.

As for me, I get more and more intrigued the more I read about Eberron. I dig the art I've seen so far, I dig the preview articles in Dragon (PC constructs! Woo!), I dig Action Points, and I dig the Extreme Explorer (magipunk Indiana Jones! Woo!).

So, I'm diggin'. That the setting winner wasn't yet another Joe-blah FR/DL/GH clone is fine by me.

My final judgement, though, will have to wait until I've read the book.
 

Pbartender said:
Regardless of whether you can look past the word, everyone's first immpression is going to resemble a renaissance Magellan decked out in Raybans and bermuda shorts sailboarding around Cape Horn in a hurricane while slamming down a can of Diet Mountain Dew.

Everyone being... you? Broad assuptions are a pretty poor method for making an arguments, unless you are looking for an *argument*. I did not think Vin Diesel for a second when I read "Extreme Explorer". I thought "Hey, someone finally used the word 'extreme' in its proper context."3

Semantics aside, I understand the displeasure with a generic Prestige Class. I am one of those people that believes in lots and lots and lots of core classes, for the stuff the represents "a guy with a schtick". Prestige classes, in my opinion, should involve another level of character development, either personal dedication to a particular craft or memebrship ina very exclusive club. But I don't sweat it. After all, I am thinking that if I run an Eberron campaign at all I will just pull out my d20 Modern fantasy conversion and do it that way. Then, "Extreme Explorer" can be an Advanced Class, for which it is a perfect fit (save for only being 5 levels).
 

I think I like it, in concept -- I like PrCs that have just a few focused levels and not a lot of requirements. You can get a little boost to your use of action points (which everyone gets and can use, but this PrC can just do a little better) without having to plan for it like 7 levels ago.
 

Complains against a single word like this strike me as a bit pretentious. "How dare they assosiate our highly intellectual hobby with modern buzzword, especially one related to *ygh* physical activity!?"

Similar uproar was heard when a Dragon cover said that "Fighters Kick Ass". That was pretty awful. No fighter has EVER kicked ass, anywhere, in D&D multiverse. This is a serious hobby, and no fighter would ever forget that and engage in any activity that's not properly approved by the ENWorld community [/sarcasm]

:D
 

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