D&D 5E Eberron: Forge of the Artificer

[Cap'n Kobold]

I wasn't talking about 2e and don't seem to have said anything to encourage that irrelevant distraction from the fact that 5e clashes with Eberron's Tone on many mechanical levels. Tone is the difference between Scream and Scary Movie. Death saves & yoyo wackamole healing were not a thing in 3.5, and it certainly wasn't designed for PCs to go through the game without regularly gaining/upgrading their magic items like 5e is.

5e misses the mark on Eberron's tone by placing PCs on the same pedestal where you find Superman's world of cardboard mixed with the regeneration of Deadpool & wolverine, that doesn't fit eberron any more than 5e's "magic items are OpTiOnAl" baseline fits Eberron's wide magic world.

You seem too hung up on ensuring that other people do not have the option of saying "we are using this/these option(s)". When the setting changes the expectations in ways that "NONE" is no longer a reasonable expectation it's kind of important to acknowledge that mechanically with support.

It is absolutely possible to run Eberron with limited combat magic items if this is what is causing you trouble.
1) All the nations and several major organisations are in a cold war preparing for a resumption of hostilities in which magic and monsters can be expected to play a part. Anyone able to manufacture or sell combat items has exclusive contracts with one or more of these. If the players want a specific combat item, they will have to quest for it.
2) There are several areas of Khorvaire and other places in the world with very different assumptions about magic items.
3) There is very little high-level magic available in Eberron in general. Common items are . . . common, uncommon items can be available, but it might be very hard to find Rare or better items. +1 spears and breastplates aren't going to skew the maths much.

Do you have some other examples or where you're having issues reconciling Eberron with 5e? These forums are a place to ask for advice, and there are several people in this thread who have solved them or otherwise run successful games in Eberron using 5e.
Maybe we could help you?

As I type there is even a thread on 5.24's healing kits where someone reports a verbal exchange of a player saying "just kill me" with the GM's follow-up being that they can't because the system won't let it happen.

Do you think that your issues with Eberron and 5e may have the same fundamental root as that particular exchange from the DM?

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Tell me again how Eberron doesn't support superheroic high fantasy:
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I love that pic. That and the one with the Warforged hanging off an airship over the Lightning Rail.

I ran a three part, three session, combat, in Sharon’s upper districts, with assassins attacking their rich noble friend’s home and then fleeing on sky cabs that the PCs chased on basically fantasy versions of Star Wars speeder bikes designed by the same noble, and then ending in an epic fight against an “Eldritch Titan” that was basically 4 enemies and a puzzle in one Huge warforged titan.

It was absolutely superheroic, and suited Eberron like rainy nights in cold alleyways.

 

[Zardnaar]

I am legitimately excited. I honestly believe that Eberron -- not Greyhawk or Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance -- is the perfect D&D setting. It doesn't pretend to be medieval and it embraces all the gonzo along with the "serious."

I think it's good for things exactly like tgat. 5E did a very good version of Eberron as well.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I think it's good for things exactly like tgat. 5E did a very good version of Eberron as well.

Yep. That’s why I think Eberron needs a new video game that is high quality. DDO is great for its age, but man it desperately needs a hard reset, and the world would be perfect for a BG3 level AAA game.

 

[Aldarc]

Yep. That’s why I think Eberron needs a new video game that is high quality. DDO is great for its age, but man it desperately needs a hard reset, and the world would be perfect for a BG3 level AAA game.

If Larian Studios had made a game for Eberron instead of Forgotten Realms with BG3, I would have played it in a heartbeat.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

If Larian Studios had made a game for Eberron instead of Forgotten Realms with BG3, I would have played it in a heartbeat.

Yeah absolutely. I’d also be super excited for a new high quality MMO set in Eberron.

 

[Chaltab]

Yeah absolutely. I’d also be super excited for a new high quality MMO set in Eberron.

I don't trust anyone in the modern MMO landscape to get it right. All the MMOs generally cited as the best are like 15 to 20 years old & most of them have changed hands at least once.

 

[Gradine]

I don't trust anyone in the modern MMO landscape to get it right. All the MMOs generally cited as the best are like 15 to 20 years old & most of them have changed hands at least once.

None of that sounds like Final Fantasy XIV

 

[Aldarc]

None of that sounds like Final Fantasy XIV

FF14 first came out in 2010, so it is 14-15 years old. Realm Reborn though was in 2013.

 

[Reynard]

I don't trust anyone in the modern MMO landscape to get it right. All the MMOs generally cited as the best are like 15 to 20 years old & most of them have changed hands at least once.

We don't need any more MMOs anyway. Give me 8 player drop in/drop out CRPGs tho...