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Psionicist

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What we need here is a thread about electronic and/or industrial music.

First of all let me recommend Run Level Zero. If you like music such as Funker Vogt, Front 242, Hocico... even VNV Nation (Advance and Follow), you should give it a try. It's fairly new, edgy, harsh, sort of S&M, and Swedish! ;) If you prefer synthpop (including VNV Nation and Apoptygma Berzerk) I can also recommend Colony 5, also a rather new Swedish band.

Here's a great shoutcast station: http://www.digitalgunfire.com/

So... If you'd like to add something, write! :D

Currently playing: Funker Vogt - Maschine Zeit
 
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My magazine Sonic-Boom (http://www.sonic-boom.com) and my label Doppler Effect Records (http://www.sonic-boom.com/dfx/) have all seen better days. They were closed in 1998 and 2003 respectively. They were both labors of love and lost a lot of money for the better part of a decade.

At 31 years of age I am still into the 'scene' having caught both Voltaire and Laibach as they went through Portland, OR in the last week. My general listening habits have gone towards the Futurepop (VNV, Covenant, Assemblage 23) and Power Noise (Converter, Winterkalte, Iszoloscope) these days.
 

I'm mostly what passes for an "industrial OG" - strictly the classics like KMFDM, Skinny Puppy, Front 242, Front Line Assembly, Pig, old Ministry, old Thrill Kill Kult, Chemlab...

Although I do dig some newer stuff like Apoptygma Berzerk and Spahn Ranch.
 


What exactly does "old skool" mean in this regard? I mean, groups like Covenant, VNV Nation, Assemblage 23, Apoptygma Berzerk, Neuroticfish, etc. that are the new face of former EBM, now futurepop sound pretty old school to me. In fact, in some ways that's a bit back to their old EBM roots; Front 242 and Ministry used to be a lot more melodic and synthpop-like than a lot of people give them credit for.

I mean, I'm a fan of the old mid to late 80s Wax Trax! bands and the guys like them, naturally, but the new brand of Futurepop is just about my favorite music these days.

Then again, I was always a synthpop fan as well, so I tend to like a little bit more melody, a bit of catchiness, etc. along with my music, not just noise and angst, and danceability.

I'm still kicking myself that I missed Apoptygma Berzerk's Harmonizer and Starsign tours when they came through Detroit a few years ago. Came with VNV Nation and Beborn Beton respectively.

Oh, and speaking of straddling the lines between EBM, electro, synthpop and what have you, anyone here listen to Neuroactive? Those guys rock.

For "old school" I'm all over Front 242, Nitzer Ebb, Front Line Assembly (although they're still around), Split Second and the like, but I really dig the newer guys.

Can't go wrong with the Headhunter 2000 2-disc set, though. A nice fusion of old and new.
 
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Ya, I'd consider old school late 80's ealry 90's when industrial was hitting its stride. of course, there's always going to be the guy thats going to say that its Throbbing Gristle and half a dozen preformance artists no one has ever heard of unless they've read Re/Search magazine. :-)

I did catch Apop play at Thunderdome at burning man. I have pictures I took of that too. (Have I mentioned I'm a complete photo whore?) I have a few Neuroactive songs off of comps. They're pretty cool, but my last big favortie was Blutengel although since the girls left and Chris Pohl has started doing more vocals, they've gone downhill. Do you like Assemblage 23?
 

From my perspective there are about five phases or enerations of musicians that make up the entire 'Industrial" scene as we know it.

In the beginning we had bands like Throbbing Gristle, Coil, SPK, Z'ev, Einstruzende Neubauten, Foetus, Nick Cave, Diamandas Galas, Psychic TV, Swans, marc Almond, Lydia Lunch, Tangerine Dream, Portion Control, Kraftwerk, Can, ClockDVA and Laibach. This period ran from around 1970 to around 1980.

Next we started to hear from bands like Skinny Puppy, Front Line Assembly, Front 242, Ministry, Absolute Body Control, Vomito Negro, Neon Judgement and Luc van Acker. Basically anything that was released on Wax Trax in the early to mid-1980's.

Just as Wax Trax was dying, there was a huge upswing in Europe that in part to Talla XLC of Zoth Ommog Records, VUZ, Minus Habens, Machinery, and US labels like Cleopatra, Fifth Column, RAS DVA, Reconstriction, Decibel, COP, 21st Circuitry, Invisible, and Projekt. This was the Silver Age of the scene with bands touring all year long, large festivals starting to pop up all over Europe and mainstream media starting to take notice. You even had bands of the previous generation headlining festivals like Lollapalooza and signing to major labels. Then the bubble burst near the end of the .com boom and labels started to vanish just as quickly as they had arrived.

In the late 1990's the scene was trying to recover from the guitar infused coldwave nightmare of the previous years and ended up pushing more towards experiemental noise again. The rise of labels like Hands and Ant-Zen made noise so much more popular than ever before. Everyone was releasing crunchy music. At the same time electronic music was more popular in the mainstream than ever in major motion pictures, video games, dance clubs, commercials, muzak. Many labels rose and fall eventually settling on a handful like Metropolis, Dependent, Out of Line, Alfa Matrix, and others.

Right around the turn of the century people started getting up with all of the feedback and crunch and started to head the complete other direction. Future Pop was born. These bands had crisp clean beats, dance club appeal and for once a voclalist whose lyrics were meaningful and that stood out from the music. We are still in the middle of this phase of electronic music development. You can't escape a club playing music by these bands.

Of course, many bands crossed from phase to phase, either maintaining their same style and sound or trying to follow the latest trend. Bands like Front 242, FLA, Neubauten, Ministry and Coil are still releasing albums, some for more than 25 years.
 

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Do you like Assemblage 23?
I do indeed. And Angels & Agony? Sounds a bit like a D&D title, but they're a great group too -- one of their CDs was produced by VNV Nation, so it has a nice similar sound.

Also, a bit more synthpopish, but anyone here heard B! Machine? Had some production by Neuroactive on one of their CDs to give them a bit of a harder, clubbish beat?
 

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