Steely_Dan
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In my current FR campaign (going since 1987), Elminster has been made a tea-servant by Asmodeus, and Drizzt is working as rough trade on the streets of Calimport since just around when Yamun invaded Cormyr.
D&D 5E Ed Greenwood to write 5E's Forgotten Realms
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Talath
Explorer
I would love to see a Forgotten Realms where Ed is at the helm, especially if they reboot the setting and roll it back to a prior edition before 3rd edition. In fact, that would be a deal breaker if they didn't, as I did not support the changes they made to the setting post 3rd edition.
GMforPowergamers
Legend
For this to work you need to dial everyone I. The JLM(Justice League Mystra) back. If elmenster was a great sage and 12th level wizard and sometimes needed help... That would be fine.
Does everyone remember when 4e realms came out I HATED anything to do with it... 4e made me learn to love the realms, and I would hate to see a big step backwards.
Make the chosen less in your face, make PCs matter, and don't wast space telling me how your Mary sue NPC get laid...
Does everyone remember when 4e realms came out I HATED anything to do with it... 4e made me learn to love the realms, and I would hate to see a big step backwards.
Make the chosen less in your face, make PCs matter, and don't wast space telling me how your Mary sue NPC get laid...
Ditto me on this too.
As for the Realms in 5E, I wonder if they can manage to divorce the campaign setting from the rules and still keep it viable?
Eric Tolle
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The example that comes to mind is the scenario Greenwood likes to recount where the characters have to delivery an urgent message to the queen, and find they have to wade through a huge bath full of an orgy in progress. And that's just one of the creepy or sexist crap Greenwood came up with.
As far as I'm concerned, this is another indication of how creatively bankrupt D&D Next is- but then I've always hated Elmunchkin and The Forgettable Realms. But hey, if you want your characters to wade through puddles of spooge while acting as servants at one of Mystera's parties, more power to you.
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GMforPowergamers
Legend
if I could xp
Judgmental much?
I have been playing in the Realms since the earliest editions and I have never had to wade through puddles of spooge and while I have played clerics in the service of the gods and once I infiltrated a party given by the King of Cormyr as a dancer to steal an item I have never played a servant of Mystra at one of her parties.
But you were using hyperbole to be witty and to make a dig at a setting you don't personally like. While implying that people who do are having badfun.
Blackwarder
Adventurer
Personally, I'll pick the orgy over the sewer every day of the week
Unless of course it was filled with fugly abominations... the would be just wrong
Warder
Shemeska
Adventurer
Greenwood having creative control for the 5e Realms has me listening, for the first time in years where FR is concerned. But if they want to get me back after my interest in it cratered after seeing 4e turn it into something barely resembling FR, they'll probably need to let Ed and some others (Boyd? Schend? Either of them too please?) have complete editorial control to redact or reboot in part or in whole.
But this is promising news. We shall see.
But this is promising news. We shall see.
Olgar Shiverstone
Legend
Yeah, this is what I do. I run FR like Greyhawk.
I'd prefer to reset back to the Grey Box, but failing that would accept a "here's several historical eras to play in" set of choices.
The most important thing WotC can do is have the game setting and novels get a divorce. Let the novel story line progress off in whatever direction its Realms-shattering events want; the game setting should stay static so individual DMs can decide how they want it to progress.
Janaxstrus
First Post
The "realms shattering events" were all driven by the game, not the novel authors. R.A. Salvatore is on record as being very opposed to the Spellplague in particular.
Obryn
Hero
The only incarnation of the Realms I absolutely love is the classic 1e grey box. Maybe a few of the 1e/2e FR series for zooming in on some areas, but not all of them, and arguably you're better off without some... The setting is lean, concise, and actually leaves vast stretches of the wilderness completely open to the DM to do what they will. And the areas that are described are mostly thumbnail sketches for the DM to use as inspiration when building their own Realms. The promise of the unknown and adventure was everywhere - a lot like the 1e Greyhawk boxed set, but a little more fleshed-out.
2e's and especially 3e's releases wrecked the Realms for me with canon bloat. Too many novels, too many supplements, and just altogether too much going on. Those blank spaces got filled in. Those thumbnail sketches turned into 8 megapixel photos. The sense of wonder and mystery was harmed.
I didn't care much for the 4e setting until the Neverwinter book came out last year. That's actually a remarkably well-done setting that finally gives you some hint of what this spellplague business would be like, and finally show what's potentially cool about it. With that said, it's no Grey Box, but it's a workable setting with some good stuff going for it.
-O
2e's and especially 3e's releases wrecked the Realms for me with canon bloat. Too many novels, too many supplements, and just altogether too much going on. Those blank spaces got filled in. Those thumbnail sketches turned into 8 megapixel photos. The sense of wonder and mystery was harmed.
I didn't care much for the 4e setting until the Neverwinter book came out last year. That's actually a remarkably well-done setting that finally gives you some hint of what this spellplague business would be like, and finally show what's potentially cool about it. With that said, it's no Grey Box, but it's a workable setting with some good stuff going for it.
-O
IanB
First Post
Eh, that may be true of the top level of events, but the game materials are rife with changes caused by novels as well. Compare and contrast to Eberron novels, which do not change the game canon at all. I find this preferable from a DMing standpoint, in part because I don't have to read crappy tie-in novels to understand why a change was made from one product to another.
Now it may be that people want the novels to 'count' and that the draw for a lot/most Realms fans is interacting with those NPCs, I couldn't tell you, I just know that's not my own preference.
IanB
First Post
Sure, but that does involve some amount of work. If I want to run a premade setting, and I sit down with Golarion or Eberron (at least currently) I can be sure that any supplement I grab from any edition that setting exists in will be compatible with any other supplement I grab from that setting (not rules-wise, but fluff-wise). With FR you have to pay a lot closer attention to things like 'what era does this book cover' and 'are the maps going to match in these 2 books' and that sort of thing.
If I'm going to be spending time on that, I'd rather spend it on my never-will-be-ready-to-actually-use homebrew setting.
SeRiAlExPeRiMeNtS
Explorer
You can disagree but to me the only thing that would save the realms is a total reboot, pick up what is good, ignore what isn't.
Rogue Agent
First Post
I have little patience with 1st level characters who think they're the Kings of the World. You want to deal with the kinds of problems that Elminster is dealing with? Work for it. You want to be as important as Han Solo? Earn it.
Players who whine because there are demi-gods in the world when their PCs don't get to start as demi-gods are spoiled children. It takes the concept of "player entitlement" and cranks it up 99 on a scale of 1-10.
"Oh no! My viking PC is totally trivialized by the existence of Thor!"
Incenjucar
Legend
You literally cannot catch up to Elminster without vast amounts of DM fiat.
May as well try to catch up to Ao.
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