Eldritch Disciple/Hellfire Warlock

Shin Okada

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One of my player has created a Cleric/Warlock/Eldritch Disciple/Hellfire Warlock. So I want to clarify some rules related to Healing Blast (Eldritch Disciple) and Hellfire Blast (Hellfire Warlock).

1) Hellfire Damage
Should the entire damage from a Hellfire Blast is Hellfire Damage? Or only the extra damage?

2) Hellfire Blast and damage type changing Eldritch Essence
What will happen if a warlock uses Hellfire Blast ability and damage type changing Eldritch Essence such as Vitriolic Blast? Assuming the base damage of a warlock's Eldritch Blast is 5d6, and his Hellfire Blast extra damage is 4d6, and Vitriolic Blast causes 2d6/round damage, which part of the damage is Acid and which part of the damage is Hellfire?

3) Hellfire Blast and Healing Blast
Should those two abilities combined? If it is possible, what will happen? Should the blast heals the amount of normal eldritch blast and then heals the amount of extra damage from hellfire? Or should the blast heals the amount of normal eldritch blast and then causes extra hellfire damage?
 

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1) Hellfire Damage
Should the entire damage from a Hellfire Blast is Hellfire Damage? Or only the extra damage?
The whole chunk for that attack is Hellfire damage. If his Eldritch Blast is normally 5d6, and his Hellfire Blast is +4d6, then when he uses it, he does 9d6 Hellfire damage.

2) Hellfire Blast and damage type changing Eldritch Essence
What will happen if a warlock uses Hellfire Blast ability and damage type changing Eldritch Essence such as Vitriolic Blast? Assuming the base damage of a warlock's Eldritch Blast is 5d6, and his Hellfire Blast extra damage is 4d6, and Vitriolic Blast causes 2d6/round damage, which part of the damage is Acid and which part of the damage is Hellfire?
All of it is Hellfire, I think.

This is an oddity in the rules, because Hellfire Blast isn't classified as an Eldritch Essence. If it were (as it likely should have been), he couldn't apply both hellfire blast and vitriolic blast at the same time. But, Hellfire Blast isn't classified as an eldritch essence, so he can. The described blast will ignore SR, and will deal Hellfire damage. I'd visually describe it as flames of hellfire that refuse to burn out for a few rounds.

I know the above conflicts with the logic of the next answer. In this case I'd probably go with whatever is most beneficial to the player. If you needed to go all one way or all the other, I'd say the Hellfire/Vitriolic combo does all acid damage.

3) Hellfire Blast and Healing Blast
Should those two abilities combined? If it is possible, what will happen? Should the blast heals the amount of normal eldritch blast and then heals the amount of extra damage from hellfire? Or should the blast heals the amount of normal eldritch blast and then causes extra hellfire damage?
This does work. I even had a character with these exact same classes. He was a Hellbred that was fighting to redeem his soul, despite dark forces granting him dark gifts (the warlock abilities) that I roleplayed as not being able to control very well.

My final mastery over the darkness in my soul was when I was able to turn the powers of evil (ie - hellfire) to the powers of good (ie - boosting my healing abilities).

If he has 5d6 eldritch blast and +4d6 hellfire blast, when he combines Hellfire Blast with Healing Blast, he will heal 9d6 damage.
 
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