Elves "Favoring" Cleric

[The Ubbergeek]

They have a very different outlook, different class skills, different spells, and totally different class abilities. Saying Druids and Clerics should be the same class is to me like saying Rangers should just be Fighters.

At the base, it's a cleric of nature things, anyway. A shaman, a mystic.

You can make an argument that a ranger is a fighter simply, with wilderness skills and feats.

 

[Falling Icicle]

At the base, it's a cleric of nature things, anyway. A shaman, a mystic.

You can make an argument that a ranger is a fighter simply, with wilderness skills and feats.

And taken to the extreme you can get rid of classes altogether. I like the flavor and variation that comes with specific classes. If Druids were rolled into Cleric, one of two things would happen. In the first, and imo worst one, Druids are simply priests of some nature deity with the plant and animal domains. In that case, I'm simply playing a cleric, which I hate.

In the second, druids get their own "talent tree", special abilities, and spell list. But in that case, they're effectively their own class anyway, so why include them in the cleric? This is how it was in 2nd edition. While techincally a subset of cleric, it had more than enough abilities of its own and its own writeup to be its own seperate class. The way that domains worked backed then allowed them to share many cleric spells yet have a different spell list from most priests. Bards were likewise a subclass of rogue, and rangers and paladins were subclasses of fighter. I vastly prefer the 3rd edition way to the 2nd.

 

[Rechan]

You can make an argument that a ranger is a fighter simply, with wilderness skills and feats.

And spells.

 

[HeinorNY]

And spells.

That reminded me, is there any word so far about rangers being able to cast spells?

 

[The Ubbergeek]

And spells.

Speless rangers versions are pretty popular, I am told.

 

[Rechan]

That reminded me, is there any word so far about rangers being able to cast spells?

They really just gave a paragraph or two on rangers in R&C, IIRC.

 

[Scholar & Brutalman]

Not that I've seen. The example elf ranger in the elf race preview is said to be a devout follower of a god though. I don't think it's some sort of hint that they're a divine class, but perhaps it is.

 

[Falling Icicle]

Rangers might not have spells inherintly, but may be able to get them with the "training" feats or whatever they're called that allow you to partially multiclass.

 

[Rechan]

Rangers might not have spells inherintly, but may be able to get them with the "training" feats or whatever they're called that allow you to partially multiclass.

Well, the same could be said of fighters or rogues, too.

 

[Doug McCrae]

What Rechan said. For a player, an elven cleric is a good choice. But in the game world elven clerics are rare.

Percentage of elf PCs that are clerics: 25%
Percentage of elf NPCs that are clerics: 0.1%