Enterprise 02/11/03

Hoshi was probably able to read the Human signature as this was a planet with Andorians and Vulcans. Not all that tough really.
I was also impressed with this episode. They did a good job on it.
 

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I've had this experience many times. Barium milkshakes are not as tasty as they look.

Hehehe they look like a milkshake .....oooops

And that is why Scotty could never change the laws of physics.
Scotty was just a character ... it was the writers that did it.
ummmm Q ? ummm Warp Drive? Physics ? what physics?
Just kiddin,
Darius
 

John Crichton said:
I've had this experience many times. Barium milkshakes are not as tasty as they look. :p

that's what I was thinking of!

sure the cappy's not radioactive, but does he still carry around some of it like a signature ...

anyway! it doesn't matter ... they isolated a human bio sign somehow.
 

Wolf72 said:


that's what I was thinking of!

sure the cappy's not radioactive, but does he still carry around some of it like a signature ...

anyway! it doesn't matter ... they isolated a human bio sign somehow.
Yeah, I don't see why it couldn't work that same way. That stuff stayed in my system for a few hours at least. I like to think that it was Hoshi finding the lone human signal because it was the only one down there but it really doesn't matter in the end. Tis a minor point. :)
 

myrdden said:
Plot

Archer is requested by an Andorian commander to mediate a cease fire with the Vulcans.



Thoughts with spoliers...


:)

I liked this episode. It wasn't the most imaginative, but I felt satisfied after watching it, which good enough for me! Archer's discomfort with the role of the mediator is apparent and portrayed appropriately. He is keenly aware of what he needs to do, but really doesn't know how to do it. The Vulcan/Andorian conflictis a nice touch, which I feel develops the history of ST appropriately. It foreshadows the importance humanity will play in the formation of the Federation.

Trip's moment of "cowboy diplomacy" also stood out for me as well.

Sure the plot was as transparent as Seran Wrap, but it was still a satisfying watch.

I give it 8/10 - my favourite episode this season I think.


Yeah, this was a good episode. I liked seeing Soval being forced to admit he actually needed Archer for something. Soval is probably the most arrogant Vulcan ever -- seeing him being forced to take a major dose of humility was enjoyable.

Still there was one major plot hole -- why did Soval go down to the planet in the middle of a hostile situation? That was most illogical. If he was going to meet with Shran, it would have made far more sense to do so on Enterprise, which is neutral ground for both sides. Yeah, I know, Shran's second in command wouldn't have shot down the shuttle pod, yada, yada, yada. It still seems really stupid.
 

Mark said:
The Pink Skin sense of humor - Shran (with a bit of a smile.. ;)

Who's played more characters on ST series, who's been on more series, and who's been in the ST universe as characters longer, Jeffrey Combs or Suzie Plakson? :)

Combs has more roles:

-Weyoun (multiple DS9 eps)
-Liqudator Brunt (ditto)
-That Ferengi on the Enterprise Ferengi episode last season.
-He played some alien that wanted Quark to make a holosuite fantasy about Kira (don't remember that character's name).
-Shran (three Enterprise episodes).

Plakson has only 4 so far:

-Dr. Selar (one TNG episode).
-K'Ehleyr (two TNG episodes).
-The female Q (one two-part Voyager episode).
-and the Andorian character in this episode of Enterprise.

So Combs has gotten more airtime, and played more roles, but Plakson has been playing in Star Trek longer, and been on 3 of 5 seires as opposed to Comb's 2 of 5. That is unless I'm missing some data from Voyager

Also I kind of like the irony in this episode -- Plakson's character in this episode is an Andorian who hates Vulcans, yet her very first role in Star Trek was a Vulcan!
 

Orius said:

Still there was one major plot hole -- why did Soval go down to the planet in the middle of a hostile situation? That was most illogical. If he was going to meet with Shran, it would have made far more sense to do so on Enterprise, which is neutral ground for both sides. Yeah, I know, Shran's second in command wouldn't have shot down the shuttle pod, yada, yada, yada. It still seems really stupid.

Yeah, that pplot point does require a significant amount of suspension of disbelief. But in the end it is a minor point.

Myrdden
 

Re: Re: Enterprise 02/11/03

Orius said:
Also I kind of like the irony in this episode -- Plakson's character in this episode is an Andorian who hates Vulcans, yet her very first role in Star Trek was a Vulcan!

I hadn't considered that irony... Very good catch...and quite funny. :)

Orius said:
Yeah, this was a good episode. I liked seeing Soval being forced to admit he actually needed Archer for something. Soval is probably the most arrogant Vulcan ever -- seeing him being forced to take a major dose of humility was enjoyable.

Still there was one major plot hole -- why did Soval go down to the planet in the middle of a hostile situation? That was most illogical. If he was going to meet with Shran, it would have made far more sense to do so on Enterprise, which is neutral ground for both sides. Yeah, I know, Shran's second in command wouldn't have shot down the shuttle pod, yada, yada, yada. It still seems really stupid.

I was thinking about that also last night as I watched the rerun and I do not think it is a plot hole. Consider that Soval has been there before both as an ambassador to negotiate the treaty and as an intelligence officer, so he can assumably go into place like that without being out of his scope of capability. But further consider that the "ball was in his court" and his arrogance would seem to not allow him to reject the invitation. Not logical, perhaps to go, but not logical to refuse either and more in keeping with his arrogant character, perhaps?
 


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