Enterprise: weekly discussion [prob spoilers too]
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Black Omega
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Re: cheesy
I was so confused until I realized that was Legend of the Rangers and not Lord of the Rings.
for some reason, LotR will always be Tolkien to me.
I'll give G'Kar a break though, he's been through a trip with Lyta. Given her history with people she closely associates with he's lucky to come out intact.
I might have to start checking it out again then. The first few episodes were average-to-annoying and I just lost interest.
Wolf72 said:
I was so confused until I realized that was Legend of the Rangers and not Lord of the Rings.
for some reason, LotR will always be Tolkien to me.I'll give G'Kar a break though, he's been through a trip with Lyta. Given her history with people she closely associates with he's lucky to come out intact.
I might have to start checking it out again then. The first few episodes were average-to-annoying and I just lost interest.
Teflon Billy
Explorer
Enterprise seems to be getting really good.
Dr. Flox is a nice surprise. At first I thought "Ahh, this series' Neelix" (in much the same way that I saw T'Pol and said "Ahh, this series' 7 of 9).
But Dr. Flox has become a really good character. Semi-alien outlook without the usual Star Trek "One Racial Trait" template for aliens (Klingon=Violent, Romulan=Cunning, Ferrenghi=Greedy) etc.), and good characterization from the actor who plays him.
In the 8 or so episodes I've seen Enterprise has surpassed most of Deep Space Nine and Voyager (in its entirety) on my list of favorites.
On a related note, Scott Bakula is good in everything he does (he made the later episodes of Murphy Freakin Brown watchable!).
It's now something I tune in to see, rather than something I watch when it's on.
Dr. Flox is a nice surprise. At first I thought "Ahh, this series' Neelix" (in much the same way that I saw T'Pol and said "Ahh, this series' 7 of 9).
But Dr. Flox has become a really good character. Semi-alien outlook without the usual Star Trek "One Racial Trait" template for aliens (Klingon=Violent, Romulan=Cunning, Ferrenghi=Greedy) etc.), and good characterization from the actor who plays him.
In the 8 or so episodes I've seen Enterprise has surpassed most of Deep Space Nine and Voyager (in its entirety) on my list of favorites.
On a related note, Scott Bakula is good in everything he does (he made the later episodes of Murphy Freakin Brown watchable!).
It's now something I tune in to see, rather than something I watch when it's on.
This is currently the best episode of the series.
As for voyager, well, Imnsho, voyager was good in the begining, and started to degrade after the introduction of Spieces 8472 (not sure on the #), everything after that finale' just got worse and worse. Untill the final episode of the show which had one of the most anticlimactic endings I've ever seen. (Bested only by the first La Femme Nikita ending, which left me and half my freinds thirsting for the writers blood.
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Which brings me even futher off topic to my biggest gripe about Voyager; The tameing of 8472. The episode where they make peace with 8472 nearly killed my faith in the whole series. The first time I saw 8472 I was struck with the line "The weak will perish" and I loved the idea of a dimension so thouroughly different, and such a dangerous speices so complete bent on aniallateing everything there was, that even the Borg were powerless against them. (I thought thier defeat was cheesy but anyways) And then someone decided to make them "human", give them human bodies, human emotions, human fear of death, let them negotiate with their enemy. Ugh.
Why?! Couldn't they let the one interesting race in the whole series just play their part and stay gone? I accept that 8472 was too one dimensional (kill, kill, kill some more) to be used as a reocurring villan, but why did they so completely scarr the races concept? 
I now return you to your regularily scheduled post.
As for voyager, well, Imnsho, voyager was good in the begining, and started to degrade after the introduction of Spieces 8472 (not sure on the #), everything after that finale' just got worse and worse. Untill the final episode of the show which had one of the most anticlimactic endings I've ever seen. (Bested only by the first La Femme Nikita ending, which left me and half my freinds thirsting for the writers blood.
)Which brings me even futher off topic to my biggest gripe about Voyager; The tameing of 8472. The episode where they make peace with 8472 nearly killed my faith in the whole series. The first time I saw 8472 I was struck with the line "The weak will perish" and I loved the idea of a dimension so thouroughly different, and such a dangerous speices so complete bent on aniallateing everything there was, that even the Borg were powerless against them. (I thought thier defeat was cheesy but anyways) And then someone decided to make them "human", give them human bodies, human emotions, human fear of death, let them negotiate with their enemy. Ugh.
Why?! Couldn't they let the one interesting race in the whole series just play their part and stay gone? I accept that 8472 was too one dimensional (kill, kill, kill some more) to be used as a reocurring villan, but why did they so completely scarr the races concept?
I now return you to your regularily scheduled post.
Shadowdancer
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Enterprise has quickly become one of my favorite series. I'm always at work when it comes on, but I tape it every week so I don't miss it.
But if you want to talk about cheesy -- that theme songs has got to go. Hopefully they will change it next season.
But if you want to talk about cheesy -- that theme songs has got to go. Hopefully they will change it next season.
Mojo
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Yup, great episode.
And to tell you the truth, the theme song is kinda growing on me. I was tired of the orchestral themes that ALL the other Trek shows had. This one is different, closer to modern day, so it is fitting that they did what they did.
I'd agree with those who say this is the best Trek yet.
And to tell you the truth, the theme song is kinda growing on me. I was tired of the orchestral themes that ALL the other Trek shows had. This one is different, closer to modern day, so it is fitting that they did what they did.
I'd agree with those who say this is the best Trek yet.
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