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[Epic 20] Diablos Ex Machina

Eidalac

Explorer
Ok, here is a review of everything up in the RG at present:

Evilhafling:
Race?
Base Cha seems to have been 14, not 10 (14 gives the correct point buy, you just had 10 written down); the net 22 is correct.
Since we are using fractional saves, your net Reflexe base becomes 9, Will becomes 14 (fort unchanged).
Rapier of puncturing? Source.

Nac Mac Feegle:
Serpent's Fangs? Source.
Scintillating Scales? What's that do?
Wild Shape forms - Your forms syould be limited to 15HD. I'm fine with stacking the MoMF levesl with druid for this, but I don't think that the same should apply to the Warshaper levels.

Ryfte:
40 dex? Damn.
60' move? I shall call him... Ugly Black Flash!
Skill Tricks: Hrm... Yeah, I think I like your idea of trading 1 feat for 4 tricks.
Gear: Your armor would reduce your AC/Movement, as it's light armor with a +8 max dex bonus. The only reason you'd ever want to wear it is for the non-armor abilities, so why not make it just a shirt (or some other form of clothing), dropping the armor portion altogther?


I still need to figure out the human racial ability...
 

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Eidalac

Explorer
This is the list of proposed characters thus far (I think, I may have missed some since they are scattered across the thread).

RG:
Dark Goblin, Swordsage 20
Human Druid 5/Master of Many Forms 10/Warshaper 5
? Cleric 17/ Disciple of Baalzebul 3
? ?Beguiler 1/ Wizard 3/ Spellthief 1/ Mindbender 1/ Ultimate Magus 10/ Unseen Seer 4?

Discussion:
? Dread Necromancer
? Wizard 5/Incantatrix 10/Archmage 3/Master Specialist 2
Warforged Warmage 20?
 

Scott DeWar

Prof. Emeritus-Supernatural Events/Countermeasure
OnlytheStrong said:
I'm going to have to bow out of this game. Sorry.


does this mean there might be a slot for a player? perhaps a tank type?

edit:
the link below is for my lew pc, not a potential submittal for this game...fyi.
 
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Ryfte

First Post
Eidalac said:
Ok, here is a review of everything up in the RG at present:

Ryfte:
40 dex? Damn.
60' move? I shall call him... Ugly Black Flash!
Skill Tricks: Hrm... Yeah, I think I like your idea of trading 1 feat for 4 tricks.
Gear: Your armor would reduce your AC/Movement, as it's light armor with a +8 max dex bonus. The only reason you'd ever want to wear it is for the non-armor abilities, so why not make it just a shirt (or some other form of clothing), dropping the armor portion altogther?

Uhhh... yeah... gear for the most part was a carryover from a different character... ;) I'll be updating that shortly. :D
 

Nac Mac Feegle

First Post
Eidalac said:
Nac Mac Feegle:
Serpent's Fangs? Source.
Scintillating Scales? What's that do?
Wild Shape forms - Your forms syould be limited to 15HD. I'm fine with stacking the MoMF levesl with druid for this, but I don't think that the same should apply to the Warshaper levels.

Serpent's Fangs: From complete Divine (Wild Feats).
Scintillating Scales: From Spell Compendium and Draconomicon, it turns your NA bonus into a deflection bonus. Not great normally, since it decreases how many things you can stack, but if you happen to have +24 NA bonuses regularly it really helps out the ol' touch AC.

HD: You're totally right, I somehow remembered Wild Shape as being based on your HD, not your druid level. As sweet as the benefits of Warshaper are, I might have to switch over to Druid 10/Master of Many Forms 10, because those high-HD forms are killers. Give me a bit to think it over, I'll have something revised by tomorrow.
 

Eidalac

Explorer
Scott DeWar:
Possibly. However, IIRC, ATM, there are 8, and that's the max I'll start out with.

Nac:
Easy fix might be to say that MoMF levels count as half for Wildshape HD. If we do that, as stated already, it'd make your HD limit 10 without shifting levels around.

RAW, MoMF doesn't work as druid levels for HD (unless there is errata I don't know about), but I think it makes perfect sense for it to at least count partially.
 

Nac Mac Feegle

First Post
I dunno, MoMF seems a little...lame if it doesn't stack, considering that druids can turn into a rather impressive selection of things at 20th level and get their supernatural and spell like abilities.
 


Nac Mac Feegle

First Post
So yeah, I figure I'll lose warshaper. It gets rid of some cool abilities, but 20HD forms are like delicious crack so I'll live somehow. It'll also give me a bit of leeway with cooler druid spells (I get Flame Strike, YAY!).
 

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