Jemal
Adventurer
Vertex - I believe the thing you're refering to is if a skill is on a creatures skill list it's a racial skill for them. Don't recall racial bonuses giving class skills (Otherwise all elves would have Spot/listen, all halflings would have Hide/move silent/listen, All Half-elves would have diplomacy, etc..)
If you want to simplify things, (and your base rase is human) I'd suggest the Able Learner feat, it makes all skills cost 1 skill point regardless of cc or not.. Which means all you have to figure out at Epic is if a skill was a class skill for ANY of your classes. If so, its 1/rank and max as a class skill=HD+3. If not, it's 1/rank and max as a cc skill=(HD+3)/2.
And in regards to the Geomancer, I've done some work on my sublime chord, and allthough he's infinitely more complicated, he's also a LOT more fun, and I've allready got lots of backstory for him and his rod.. er, perhaps I should rephrase that.. You see, he has a magical stick that.. wait, wait..
I gave him an Intelligent Item, which is also an epic 1.6Million(Not counting intelligent cost) multi-purpose Rod. I knew I had to use the sublime chord over the wearbear when I realized I'd had more fun making the Rod, it's purpose, its personality, and their combined backstory than I did making the bear. Heck, I even added in Rod of Lordly might and Immovable Rod to its powers simply b/c they fit with it's Stubborn/Regal Personality! I love it when stuff like that happens
Anyways, here's the dirty I've got so far. It was originally copied from a lvl 20 sorc, so there may be some things I missed in the changing. And I've yet to finish his spell selection, so it's not included (He casts as a lvl 6 bard, Full Sublime Chord, Full Wu Jen).
Gotta head to work but will post up backstory next time.
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Human Bard2/Paladin2/Wu Jen3/Ultimate Magus 10/Mindbender1/Lyric Thaumaturge 5/E.Knight1/Sublime Chord 1/Magical Trickster3/Archmage2
*First 20 lvls = Bard2/Paladin2/WuJen3/Magus6/Sublime1/Mindbender1/Knight1/Lyric4
AL: CG HT: 5'11" WT: 150 Hair: Red with Silver Highlights Eyes: Sea-green
{91 Points *+1 for guessing near-correct on hundred headed hydra*}
STR: 10 (+0) [10 Points]
DEX: 30 (+10) [15 Points +5 Inherent +6 Enhancement +4 Sacred]
CON: 28 (+9) [17 Points +5 Inherent +6 Enhancement]
INT: 28 (+9) [18 Points +4 Inherent +6 Enhancement]
WIS: 24 (+7) [13 Points +5 Inherent +6 Enhancement]
CHA: 40 (+15) [18 Points + 7 level +5 Inherent +6 Enhancement +4 Sacred]
HP: (3d10+11d6+16d4+270) AC: 58 (10 base +10 dex +12 Armour +6 Shield +5 Nat.Armour + 15 Deflection)
Saves:
FORT: +45 (11 base +9 con +5 Epic +5 Resistance +15 Cha)
REF: +45 (10 base +10 dex +5 Epic +5 Resistance +15 Cha)
WILL: +53 (21 base +7 wis +5 Epic +5 Resistance +15 Cha)
Init: +10 (10 dex)
Bab: 16
Ranged Touch Attacks: +26
Skills(Total/Ranks):[273 Points, Max rank 33]
Knowledges: Arcana(+42/33), History(+42/33), Royalty(+20/11)
Bluff(+20/5), Concentration (+10/1), Diplomacy(+48/33), Intimidate(+20/5), Listen(+20/13), Spot(+45/33), Spellcraft(+40/28), Perform[Dance](+16/1), Perform[String](+50/33), Perform[Sing](+16/1), Profession[Astrologer](+13/6), Sense Motive(+12/5), Sleight of Hand(+18/8), Tumble(+42/12)
Skill Tricks: Point it out, Listen to this, Collector of Stories, Back on your feet, Acrobatic Backstab, Nimble Stand, Conceal Spellcasting, False Theurgy (12 pts)
*No synergy bonuses yet*
Feats: [13] Skill Focus(Spellcraft), Spell Focus(Transmutation, Evocation), Melodic Casting, Extra Music, Maximize Spell, Rapid Metamagic, Empower Spell, Heighten Spell, Persistant Spell, Quicken Spell, Twin Spell, Extend Spell
Epic Feats: [4] Intensify Spell, Improved Spell Capacity(Sublime), Improved Metamagic, Epic Heighten
Bonus Feats/Class Features:
Bardic Music(12/day), Bardic Knowledge(+21), Inspire Courage +1, Competence, Fascinate, Countersong, Captivating Melody, Bonus Spells(1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th), Spell Secret(1st & 2nd lvl Wu Jen spell known), Sonic Might(+1d6/spell lvl), Sublime Casting(Add to WuJen CL) Arcane Spellpower+4, Expanded Spell Knowledge(From Wujen to Bard: 1st,2nd,3rd; From Wujen to Sublime: 4th,5th), Augmented Casting(5th or lower, 8/day), Telepathy, Spontaneous Trickster, Metamagic Trick, Tricky Magic
High Arcana: Arcane reach(7th), Mastery of Elements(8th)
Languages: Common, Draconic, Sylvan, Celestial, Giant
Equipment: 4,300,000
Read Books: Dex+5, Cha+5,Con+5, Int+4, Wis+5(660,000)
Armour of the Celestial Battalion (616,300)
+5 Mithril Buckler of Heavy Fortification (101,015)
Cloak of Charisma+6/Resistance+5 (73,500)
Boots of Swiftness(256,000)
Circlet of Awareness[Int+6, Wis+6] (90,000)
Amulet of Supreme Health[Con+6, Immune to Disease/Poison, Wound Closure, Adaptation] (123,750)
Ring of Magic [Arcane Might, Spell Battle] (97,600)
Ring of Defense [Universal Energy Resistance, Sustenance, Freedom of Movement] (279,750)
Horizon Goggles of the Eagle(+5 spot) (11,750)
MW Lyre of Building(13,100)
Strings of Spell Storing (45,000)
Spool of Endless Rope (2,000)
Caster GloveX2 (40,000)
Portable Hole (20,000)
Hewards Handy Haversack (2,000)
Immovable Metamagic Lordly Rod "OF" [Immovable, Lordly Might + Lesser, Normal, and Greater of each: Chain, Empower, Maximize, Quicken, Enlarge, Extend, Silent](1,608,300) (+ 236,000) Intelligent)
Intelligent Item: Immovable Metamagic Lordly Rod "OF" :
Int 10, Wis 19, Cha 19, AL: CN, Speech, Telepathy, 120' Darkvision, Blindsense, Hearing
Dedicated Purpose: Slay Dragons. Dedicated Power: Waves of Exhaustion.
Primary Powers: Dimensional Anchor 1/day, Status at will, Haste 3/day
Lesser Powers: Intimidate(+16), Bluff(+14), Diplomacy(+18), Sense Motive(+14)
Ego: 27
Remaining: 23,935
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[sblock=Math Breakdowns]
Human Bard2/Paladin2/Wu Jen3/Ultimate Magus10/Sublime Chord1/Mindbender1/E.Knight1/Lyric Thaumaturge 5/Magical Trickster3/Archmage2
*First 20 lvls = Bard2/Paladin2/WuJen3/Magus6/Sublime1/Mindbender1/Knight1/Lyric4
*lvl order= Bard2/Paladin2/WuJen3/Magus3/Sublime1/Magus3/Mindbender1/Knight1/Lyric5/Magus4/Arch2/Trickster3
HD: Bard2d6+Paladin2d10+WuJen3d4+Magus10d4+Sublime1d6+Bender1d4+Knight1d10+Lyric5d6+Trickster3d6+Arch2d4
BAB:
Bard 1, Pal 2, Wu Jen 1, Magus 3, Lyric 3, Knight 1, + 5 Epic = 16
Saves:
Fort: Bard+0 Paladin+3 Wujen+1 Magus+2 Sublime+0 Mindbender+2 Knight+2 Lyric+1=11
Ref: Bard+3 Paladin+0 Wujen+1 Magus+2 Sublime+0 Mindbender+0 Knight+0 Lyric+4=10
Will: Bard+3 Paladin+0 Wujen+3 Magus+5 Sublime+2 Mindbender+2 Knight+2 Lyric+4=21
Skills:
Bard 6x2, Pal 2x2, Wu Jen 2x3, Lyric 4x5, Knight 2, Sublime 4, Bender 2, Archmage 2x2, Trickster 4x3, Magus10x2 Human&Int= 5x33 +2 Amplified Int @lvl20 = 11X2 = 273 Skill points
CL Math:
Bard2/Wujen3
Bard3/Wujen3(Magus1*Bard*)
Bard4/Wujen4(Magus2)
Bard5/Wujen5(Magus3)
Bard5/Sublime1/Wujen5(Sublime1)
Bard5/Sublime2/Wujen5(Magus4*Sublime*)
Bard5/Sublime3/Wujen6(Magus5)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen7(Magus6)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen8(Bender1*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen9(Lyric1*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen10(Lyric2*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen11(Lyric3*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen12(Lyric4*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen13(Lyric5*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime5/Wujen13(Magus7*Sublime*)
Bard5/Sublime6/Wujen14(Magus8)
Bard5/Sublime7/Wujen15(Magus9)
Bard5/Sublime8/Wujen16(Magus10)
Bard5/Sublime10/Wujen16(Trickster3*Sublime*)
Bard5/Sublime10/Wujen18(Archmage2*Wujen*)
CL: Bard 10, Sublime 33, Wujen 33
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If you want to simplify things, (and your base rase is human) I'd suggest the Able Learner feat, it makes all skills cost 1 skill point regardless of cc or not.. Which means all you have to figure out at Epic is if a skill was a class skill for ANY of your classes. If so, its 1/rank and max as a class skill=HD+3. If not, it's 1/rank and max as a cc skill=(HD+3)/2.
And in regards to the Geomancer, I've done some work on my sublime chord, and allthough he's infinitely more complicated, he's also a LOT more fun, and I've allready got lots of backstory for him and his rod.. er, perhaps I should rephrase that.. You see, he has a magical stick that.. wait, wait..
I gave him an Intelligent Item, which is also an epic 1.6Million(Not counting intelligent cost) multi-purpose Rod. I knew I had to use the sublime chord over the wearbear when I realized I'd had more fun making the Rod, it's purpose, its personality, and their combined backstory than I did making the bear. Heck, I even added in Rod of Lordly might and Immovable Rod to its powers simply b/c they fit with it's Stubborn/Regal Personality! I love it when stuff like that happens

Anyways, here's the dirty I've got so far. It was originally copied from a lvl 20 sorc, so there may be some things I missed in the changing. And I've yet to finish his spell selection, so it's not included (He casts as a lvl 6 bard, Full Sublime Chord, Full Wu Jen).
Gotta head to work but will post up backstory next time.
[sblock=The Messenger]
Human Bard2/Paladin2/Wu Jen3/Ultimate Magus 10/Mindbender1/Lyric Thaumaturge 5/E.Knight1/Sublime Chord 1/Magical Trickster3/Archmage2
*First 20 lvls = Bard2/Paladin2/WuJen3/Magus6/Sublime1/Mindbender1/Knight1/Lyric4
AL: CG HT: 5'11" WT: 150 Hair: Red with Silver Highlights Eyes: Sea-green
{91 Points *+1 for guessing near-correct on hundred headed hydra*}
STR: 10 (+0) [10 Points]
DEX: 30 (+10) [15 Points +5 Inherent +6 Enhancement +4 Sacred]
CON: 28 (+9) [17 Points +5 Inherent +6 Enhancement]
INT: 28 (+9) [18 Points +4 Inherent +6 Enhancement]
WIS: 24 (+7) [13 Points +5 Inherent +6 Enhancement]
CHA: 40 (+15) [18 Points + 7 level +5 Inherent +6 Enhancement +4 Sacred]
HP: (3d10+11d6+16d4+270) AC: 58 (10 base +10 dex +12 Armour +6 Shield +5 Nat.Armour + 15 Deflection)
Saves:
FORT: +45 (11 base +9 con +5 Epic +5 Resistance +15 Cha)
REF: +45 (10 base +10 dex +5 Epic +5 Resistance +15 Cha)
WILL: +53 (21 base +7 wis +5 Epic +5 Resistance +15 Cha)
Init: +10 (10 dex)
Bab: 16
Ranged Touch Attacks: +26
Skills(Total/Ranks):[273 Points, Max rank 33]
Knowledges: Arcana(+42/33), History(+42/33), Royalty(+20/11)
Bluff(+20/5), Concentration (+10/1), Diplomacy(+48/33), Intimidate(+20/5), Listen(+20/13), Spot(+45/33), Spellcraft(+40/28), Perform[Dance](+16/1), Perform[String](+50/33), Perform[Sing](+16/1), Profession[Astrologer](+13/6), Sense Motive(+12/5), Sleight of Hand(+18/8), Tumble(+42/12)
Skill Tricks: Point it out, Listen to this, Collector of Stories, Back on your feet, Acrobatic Backstab, Nimble Stand, Conceal Spellcasting, False Theurgy (12 pts)
*No synergy bonuses yet*
Feats: [13] Skill Focus(Spellcraft), Spell Focus(Transmutation, Evocation), Melodic Casting, Extra Music, Maximize Spell, Rapid Metamagic, Empower Spell, Heighten Spell, Persistant Spell, Quicken Spell, Twin Spell, Extend Spell
Epic Feats: [4] Intensify Spell, Improved Spell Capacity(Sublime), Improved Metamagic, Epic Heighten
Bonus Feats/Class Features:
Bardic Music(12/day), Bardic Knowledge(+21), Inspire Courage +1, Competence, Fascinate, Countersong, Captivating Melody, Bonus Spells(1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th), Spell Secret(1st & 2nd lvl Wu Jen spell known), Sonic Might(+1d6/spell lvl), Sublime Casting(Add to WuJen CL) Arcane Spellpower+4, Expanded Spell Knowledge(From Wujen to Bard: 1st,2nd,3rd; From Wujen to Sublime: 4th,5th), Augmented Casting(5th or lower, 8/day), Telepathy, Spontaneous Trickster, Metamagic Trick, Tricky Magic
High Arcana: Arcane reach(7th), Mastery of Elements(8th)
Languages: Common, Draconic, Sylvan, Celestial, Giant
Equipment: 4,300,000
Read Books: Dex+5, Cha+5,Con+5, Int+4, Wis+5(660,000)
Armour of the Celestial Battalion (616,300)
+5 Mithril Buckler of Heavy Fortification (101,015)
Cloak of Charisma+6/Resistance+5 (73,500)
Boots of Swiftness(256,000)
Circlet of Awareness[Int+6, Wis+6] (90,000)
Amulet of Supreme Health[Con+6, Immune to Disease/Poison, Wound Closure, Adaptation] (123,750)
Ring of Magic [Arcane Might, Spell Battle] (97,600)
Ring of Defense [Universal Energy Resistance, Sustenance, Freedom of Movement] (279,750)
Horizon Goggles of the Eagle(+5 spot) (11,750)
MW Lyre of Building(13,100)
Strings of Spell Storing (45,000)
Spool of Endless Rope (2,000)
Caster GloveX2 (40,000)
Portable Hole (20,000)
Hewards Handy Haversack (2,000)
Immovable Metamagic Lordly Rod "OF" [Immovable, Lordly Might + Lesser, Normal, and Greater of each: Chain, Empower, Maximize, Quicken, Enlarge, Extend, Silent](1,608,300) (+ 236,000) Intelligent)
Intelligent Item: Immovable Metamagic Lordly Rod "OF" :
Int 10, Wis 19, Cha 19, AL: CN, Speech, Telepathy, 120' Darkvision, Blindsense, Hearing
Dedicated Purpose: Slay Dragons. Dedicated Power: Waves of Exhaustion.
Primary Powers: Dimensional Anchor 1/day, Status at will, Haste 3/day
Lesser Powers: Intimidate(+16), Bluff(+14), Diplomacy(+18), Sense Motive(+14)
Ego: 27
Remaining: 23,935
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[sblock=Math Breakdowns]
Human Bard2/Paladin2/Wu Jen3/Ultimate Magus10/Sublime Chord1/Mindbender1/E.Knight1/Lyric Thaumaturge 5/Magical Trickster3/Archmage2
*First 20 lvls = Bard2/Paladin2/WuJen3/Magus6/Sublime1/Mindbender1/Knight1/Lyric4
*lvl order= Bard2/Paladin2/WuJen3/Magus3/Sublime1/Magus3/Mindbender1/Knight1/Lyric5/Magus4/Arch2/Trickster3
HD: Bard2d6+Paladin2d10+WuJen3d4+Magus10d4+Sublime1d6+Bender1d4+Knight1d10+Lyric5d6+Trickster3d6+Arch2d4
BAB:
Bard 1, Pal 2, Wu Jen 1, Magus 3, Lyric 3, Knight 1, + 5 Epic = 16
Saves:
Fort: Bard+0 Paladin+3 Wujen+1 Magus+2 Sublime+0 Mindbender+2 Knight+2 Lyric+1=11
Ref: Bard+3 Paladin+0 Wujen+1 Magus+2 Sublime+0 Mindbender+0 Knight+0 Lyric+4=10
Will: Bard+3 Paladin+0 Wujen+3 Magus+5 Sublime+2 Mindbender+2 Knight+2 Lyric+4=21
Skills:
Bard 6x2, Pal 2x2, Wu Jen 2x3, Lyric 4x5, Knight 2, Sublime 4, Bender 2, Archmage 2x2, Trickster 4x3, Magus10x2 Human&Int= 5x33 +2 Amplified Int @lvl20 = 11X2 = 273 Skill points
CL Math:
Bard2/Wujen3
Bard3/Wujen3(Magus1*Bard*)
Bard4/Wujen4(Magus2)
Bard5/Wujen5(Magus3)
Bard5/Sublime1/Wujen5(Sublime1)
Bard5/Sublime2/Wujen5(Magus4*Sublime*)
Bard5/Sublime3/Wujen6(Magus5)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen7(Magus6)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen8(Bender1*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen9(Lyric1*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen10(Lyric2*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen11(Lyric3*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen12(Lyric4*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime4/Wujen13(Lyric5*Wujen*)
Bard5/Sublime5/Wujen13(Magus7*Sublime*)
Bard5/Sublime6/Wujen14(Magus8)
Bard5/Sublime7/Wujen15(Magus9)
Bard5/Sublime8/Wujen16(Magus10)
Bard5/Sublime10/Wujen16(Trickster3*Sublime*)
Bard5/Sublime10/Wujen18(Archmage2*Wujen*)
CL: Bard 10, Sublime 33, Wujen 33
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