Epic game: The Eye of Profane Truth (Full)

[Jarval]

Actually, I wasn't clear with my question. Here it is:

1- Can we use creatures from the SRD to play as characters, using the HD+LA as the starting level?

I'm pretty sure the answer to this one is yes. Rkhet posted the following on the first page of the thread:

Character Generation:

-4 characters, plus 4 reserves. Selection is based on first to have complete characters.
-40 point buy.
-Max first HD, 75% the rest.
-Neutrals and evils only. I would prefer at least 50% evil PCs.
-level 30
-wealth 5 million
-no psionics (I'm not familiar with the rules. Too lazy to learn.)
-no templates. Only races with "LA +x" entries will be allowed.

2- If the La = -, can we assume it's 0?

A Level Adjustment of "-" is different to a +0 LA. A LA of +0 is a race that can be taken only counting its racial HD towards ECL. A LA of "-" implies that the creature is in some way unsuitable to be used as a PC.

3- If the answer is yes to 1 & 2, how do we determine the ability modifiers for that creature?

You determine racial ability modifiers for a creature by subtracting 10 from all of its ability scores. If you end up with an odd number, round down to the even number below. If you end up with a negative number, you apply a penalty rather than a bonus to that ability score. In general, intelligent creatures (anything with an Int score of 4 or more) can have and Int score of less than 3.

For example, a pseudodragon has the following ability scores: Str 6, Dex 15, Con 13, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 10. Its racial ability score modifiers would be Str -4 (6-10), Dex +4 (15-10, rounded down to an even number), Con +2 (13-10, rounded down to an even number), Wis +2 (12-10).

It's worth noting that for a few creatures (mainly the PC races or things like orcs), the stats assume a 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8 ability score spread. This will be noted in the creature's description, and they will have their racial ability score modifiers listed in their description.

 

[Rkhet]

A few quick questions for the DM of my own:

1) Are we using the epic spell rules in this game? If so, do spellcasting characters who qualify for them get any epic spells at character creation? If not, can they acquire any through any means?

2) How do you feel about custom created magic items, using the rules from the DMG?

3) Are we starting at the base amount of XP for 30th level characters, or do we have any above and beyond that number?

1. No epic spells. This will be updated on the first post.

2. No custom items, either. I'm trying to keep the workload down, if possible. All items will be as-is from the books.

3. You have enough xp for level 30 and not a point more.

Hmm, so does this mean that I need to take the one from the SRD or that that race isn't available?
Thanks and cheers,

Hmm. I'm going to have to say no. The SS rules, while interesting, are... messy. I'll update the first post.

What do you think the True Necro's epic progression would look like?

Unless there is a printed (wotc website don't count) epic progression, then it does not have one. You'll probably be better off multiclassing anyway.

 

[Rkhet]

I'm definately interested in playing, but I've got a question first.

Rhket, what is the initial role of the PC's?

Ending the world? Seeking redemption while fighting the corruption within?

Should we be creating good PC's who became Tainted (Fell from Grace, etc) or rather Just Plain Evil?

This will be expanded on in-game, but the Perfect essentially created you and then tossed you into the world, with little, if any, explanation. It could be that he could foresee your destiny and do not wish to interfere. It could be that he is abandoning you as failed creations. You do not know.

You are free to attempt to end the world, seek redemption, or do anything else you wish.

The Perfect has a powerful church with influences across the world. He also has 'agents' of various sorts, who carry out his will, or at least think they do. But their views are seemingly wildly tangential with one another's. Perhaps you can ask them. What their advice is worth is for you to decide.

On character background:

You have little. You are created from raw divine energy. Your earliest memory is mere hours ago. It is assumed that you became sentient while being created, and therefore manipulated the energies to a degree yourselves - thereby giving you your preferred class, etc.

 

[Rkhet]

instead of deathless frenzy could I add 3/- to my damage reduction?

I'll get back to you on that later, when I have access to my books. But it seems fine at first glance.

 

[TroyXavier]

cool. That's about the only thing that's not done with my character.
This is where he stands right now.

Carnage
Human Barbarian/Fighter/Disciple of Dispater/Frenzied Berzerker/Legendary Dreadnought (Alignment NE) (8/2/8/8/4)
Str 40 (16)
Dex 14 (6)
Con 20 (6)
Int 14 (6)
Wis 12 (4)
Cha 10 (2)

Hit Points 370
Armor Class 37
Fortitude Save +30 Reflex Save +16 Will Save +15

Attack
Falchion +43/+38/+33/+28 Critical 9-20 Damage 2d4+32+1d6(+1d10 critical) vs Good +3d6 (+6d6 critical)
Frenzy with Falchion +48/+43/+38/+33 Damage 2d4+37+1d6" vs Good "
Club 1d6+15
Javelin 1d6+15

Abilities
Rage 2/day, Fast Movement, Damage Reduction ,Uncanny Dodge, Improved Uncanny Dodge, Trap Sense +2, Frenzy 4/day, Greater Frenzy, Diehard
Supreme Cleave, Improved Power Attack, Inspire Frenzy 2/day, Device Lore, Iron Hews, Rusting Grasp, Iron Power +2
Greater Iron Hews, Ironskin, Summon Erinyes, Unstoppable 1/day, Umovable 1/day, Shrug off Punishment, Thick skinned

Feats
1 Power Attack 3 Destructive Rage
6 Intimdating Rage 9 Disciple of Darkness
12 Improved Critical (Falchion) 15 Great Cleave
18 Improved Bull Rush 21 Combat Reflexes
24 Damage Reduction 27 Overwhelming Critical
30 Devastating Critical Bonus Cleave
Bonus Expertise Bonus Weapon Focus (Falchion)
Bonus Able Learner

Skills
Intimidate 33 ranks (+33)
Climb 33 ranks (+48)
Jump 33 ranks (+48)
Swim 33 ranks (+44) (Guestimation that I'm wearing/carrying 20 pounds of equipment)
Ride 33 ranks (+48)
Spot 8 ranks (+9)
Survival 11 ranks (+12)
Listen 19 ranks (+20)

Items
Icy Burst Unholy Power Falchion +8 (512,375)
Mithral Breastplate +10 (104,350)
Belt of Epic Strength +10 (1,000,000)
Manual of Gainful Exercise +5 (137,500)
Amulet of Health +6 (36,000)
Boots of Striding and Springing (5,500)
Ring of Epic Protection +10 (2,000,000)
Ring of Rapid Healing (300,000)
Bag of Holding (IV) (10,000)
10 Javelins (10)
50 feet silk rope (10)
Grappling Hook (1)
Crowbar (5)
10 torches (1 sp)
Waterskin (2 gp)
Whetstone (2 cp)
(Extra Wealth 894, 247 gold, 8 sp, 8 cp)

Personality
Carnage is a boiling festering mound of rage. His one love in life is causing destruction. Some call him insane, but he sees himself dedicated to his desires.

 

[Pyrex]

...the Perfect essentially created you and then tossed you into the world, with little, if any, explanation... You are created from raw divine energy. Your earliest memory is mere hours ago. It is assumed that you became sentient while being created, and therefore manipulated the energies to a degree yourselves - thereby giving you your preferred class, etc.

To be clear: The Perfect created the PC's. It is likely that he intended them as a force for good, but no one really knows why he created them. Somehow, during the creation process they were twisted to evil by Naramyr and/or the Eye.

Right?

Assuming I more-or-less have it right I'm going to go with a Druid. May or may not pick up a warped PrC like Oozemaster, but expect a caster level at or near 30.

I'll have more to post tomorrow.

 

[Jarval]

1. No epic spells. This will be updated on the first post.

2. No custom items, either. I'm trying to keep the workload down, if possible. All items will be as-is from the books.

3. You have enough xp for level 30 and not a point more.

Fair enough. God knows, the epic level spell rules are more than a little complex. Right, off to browse the magic items with intent...

 

[Ranger Rick]

[COLOR=Silver]Name: TBD 
Brb 8/Brd 2/DD 20 (Black)
Alignment CN

str 14 (+1 level+8 DD+5 book) 38
dex 14 (+6 level+5 book)      25
con 14 (+2DD+5 book)      21
int 16 (+2DD)                 18
wis 14                         14
cha 14 (+2DD)               16

Fort	23 
Reflex	20
Will	19
HP 411

BAB	21/16/11/6/1

AC 42 (10 +7 dex+8 armor+7 DD +10 misc) (Spell resistance 21, Invulnerability 5/magic, Fire Resistance, Greater, Sonic resistance, greater, Etherealness)

Black Dragon Breath weapon 10d8 DC 35 (10+lvl+con)
+21 Bite 1d6 +14
+21 Claw 1d4 +14

Melee - 
Sword of Life Stealing 37/32/27/22/17  1d8+16  17-20/x2
Sun Blade 37/32/27/22/17  1d10+16  19-20/x2

Longbow, composite +32/27/22/17/12  1d8+4(str) x3 (110 feet) (Shocking Burst/Distance)

Feat: Able Learner (PC Bonus) Improved Unarmed Strike, Point Blank Shot (1st level), Combat Expertise (3rd level), Power Attack (6th level), Deflect Arrows (9th level) Snatch Arrows (12th level), Improved Critical longsword (15th level) quickdraw (18th level), Improved Spell resistance (21st level), Reflected Arrows, Hover (24th level), Improved Initiative (27 th level), wingover (28th level), Precise Shot  (30th level)

Skills		Ranks	Mod	Synergy	Total
Craft (arrows)	20	4	0	24
Disable Device	5	4	0	9
Intimidate	33	4	0	37
Jump		5	9	5	19
Knowledge Arcana 8	4	0	12
Listen		33	2	0	35
Perform	10	3	0	13
Sense Motive	33	2	0	35
Sleight of Hand	9	7	0	16
Spot		33	2	0	35
Survival	10	2	0	12
Tumble	30	7	0	37


Possessions: Gauntlet of Rust 
Ring of protection +5 
Ring of Evasion 
Ring of Sustenance
Belt of Epic Strength +10
Amulet of Natural Armor +5 
Helm of Telepathy  
Hand of Glory
Robe of Stars 
Cloak of Displacement, Major 
Bracers +8  Spell resistance (19),  Invulnerability 5/magic, Fire Resistance, Greater, Sonic resistance, greater, Etherealness
Boots of Speed
Sword of Life Stealing 
Sun Blade
MW Cold Iron Longsword
Scabbard of Keen Edges
Longbow, composite  1d8+4(str) x3 (110 feet) (Shocking Burst/Distance)
Efficient Quiver 
10 arrows
50 +2 arrows
3 Wands of Cure moderate wounds
Carpet of Flying 10x10

Handy Haversack - Ring of Elemental Command (Air), Ring of Invisibility, Rope of Climbing; silk rope 50’; waterskin; Decanter of Endless Water, Rod of Alertness, Instant Fortress, Rod of Security, bedroll, caltrops, fish hook; flint&steel; grappling hook; mirror; spade; 3 days of rations, Manual of Quickness of Action +5, Manual of Gainful Exercise +5, Manual of Bodily Health +5

Investments 2,000,000 (This may not work if I am just hours old.)

GP left 372,570


Spells:
0 lvl - 4 per day, 6 Know Daze, Ghost Sound, Mending, Read Magic, Resistance, Summon Instrument
1 lvl – 3(+7) per day, Know Alarm, Comprehend Language, Cure Light Wounds, Detect Secret Doors, Expeditious Retreat, Feather Fall, Identify, Silent Image, Undetectable Alignment, Unseen Servant


Languages: Common, Draconic, Elven, Orc, Giant
Class: Fast movement, rage 3/day, Improved uncanny dodge, Trap sense +3, Damage reduction 1/—, Bardic music, bardic knowledge, countersong, fascinate, inspire courage +1, Inspire competence, Blindsense 60 ft., dragon apotheosis, Wings, natural armor bonus +7, low-light vision, 60-foot darkvision, immunity to sleep and paralysis effects, and immunity to the energy type.[/COLOR]

 

[TroyXavier]

Yeah, epic spells and seeds are why I made a martial character.

 

[Ferrix]

Unless there is a printed (wotc website don't count) epic progression, then it does not have one. You'll probably be better off multiclassing anyway.

Bah, that's a slight pain considering there's then no way to get bonus epic feats from a class during those epic levels.