Epic Oozemaster

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Crothian said:


The reason I did double the class level is becous turning is a charisma based ability, and it's not going to be long before they have a 1 charisma. Most clerics and Paladins and other characters with a turning ability have a positive charisma bonus.

How about for the purposes of turning or rebuking ooze the charisma penalty acts as a bonus.

Yes I do keep the original abilities scores seperate from modified scores.

A truly epic pile of snot. An epic oozemaster certainly wouldn't be anything to sneeze at.
 
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Here's another take on becoming an "oozemaster":

I've recently worked out an Epic Prestige class and posted it on this board. For those who don't want to read through it (and I'll admit that it is rather lengthy), here is a quick summary:

Basically, people who take levels in the "Archetypical Being" prestige class choose one of several "archetype templates" (so far, there are "Ice Demon", "Nightstalker", "Tatzelwurm", and "Thunderbird"), and get so-called "metamorphosis feats" that they can pick out of a list specific to their archetype as they advance in level. These feats are usually epic feats, but not neccessarily.

These "metamorphosis feats" don't become active immediately - instead, they are triggered through one of nine successive "metamorphosis rituals" that members of thi prestige class can go through. Each ritual causes physical changes in the character (and his size increases by one category after every third ritual), and make him look more and more like the archetype in question. So someone who chooses "Thunderbird" gradually looks like a giant bird, while a "Tatzelwurm" changes to become a many-legged serpent.

Can you see where I am going with this?


Well, with the general guidelines in the prestige class, and all the feats in this thread, it would be easy to create an archetype template called "The Slime" or "The Blob", or something like that. And yes, that means that you do no longer have to be content with controlling gargantuan slimes - you can become one!

What do you think?
 


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Kibo said:


How about for the purposes of turning or rebuking ooze the charisma penalty acts as a bonus.

Yes I do keep the original abilities scores seperate from modified scores.

A truly epic pile of snot. An epic oozemaster certainly wouldn't be anything to sneeze at.

I'm still undecided on this. I'm try to think of another way then using it as a bonus.
 

Crothian said:


Interesting way to go. Sounds like a better way of doing things like the Dragon Disciple and other prestige classes that change you.

And it leaves the PC more options in how fast his transformation should progress - does he want some power fast, or does he wait and get a stronger transformation?

Plus, the epic feats he can get give him more choices in how his transformation should express itself, and they keep things balanced as well...
 

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Crothian said:


I'm still undecided on this. I'm try to think of another way then using it as a bonus.

You know what? Drop the Charisma penalty. After all, liches and other undead can have high Charisma as well, and they tend to be ugly as hell.

Remember, Charisma doesn't just present looks and social graces - it represents the character's force of personality. If you want the Oozemaster to become really bad at dealing with normal humans, just give them a penality to "social skills" like Bluff and "Diplomacy"...
 

not a bad idea, Jurgen. but oozes (in the MM, anyway) have a Cha of 1. they don't relate to anything else or have any concept of self. they just are.
 

Also, the charisma penalty is a pattern and it's suggested that patterns stay into Epic Levels. It would be nice if the charisma penalty was explained in MotW.
 


Mr Fidgit said:
"The oozemaster is not a class for stable individuals..." (MotW, pg 67)

o.k., now i'm worried

Ya, isn't it great? What, you thought Valen was stable? And that is referring to the character as well as the player. No sane player would willingly have an oozemaster character. :D
 

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