Epic Shifter Question (Quicken Wild Shape vs. Quick Change)

[Hand of Vecna]

I'm sure those of you who're interested have already seen the Epic Shifter Progression posted on the WotC site some days back (I'd just seen it myself). It looks pretty good, but there's one thing that bugs me: the Quicken Wild Shape Epic Feat. This feat allows you to use Wild Shape, Greater Wild Shape, or Epic Wild Shape as a free action, but its prerequisities are fairly steep (Automatic Quicken Spell, Quicken Spell, Knowledge-Nature [30 ranks], Spellcraft [30 ranks], wild shape 8 times/day, ability to cast 9th-level druid spells). However, the feat Quick Change (from Savage Species) allows someone with a Dexterity of 15 and an alternate form special quality to speed up the time it takes to shift form (full-round becomes standard, standard becomes move-equivalent, and move-equivalent becomes free). Someone with 10 levels in the Shift PrC could (it seems) use the Quick Change feat to use Wild Shape (and etc.) as a free action (since a level 10 Shifter can use Wild Shape and Greater Wild Shape as a move-equivalent action).

Has the Quick Change feat been errata-ed? Or does a Druid's Wild shape class ability not count as a Special Quality (which would make it inelegible for the Quck Change feat)?

 

[Deset Gled]

Has the Quick Change feat been errata-ed? Or does a Druid's Wild shape class ability not count as a Special Quality (which would make it inelegible for the Quck Change feat)?

No errata I know of. Savage Species just has some really poorly planned feats in it.

 

[The Souljourner]

I don't think it's all that bad. Shifters are better at changing shape than Druids... a high level PrC ability probably should be the equivalent of an Epic feat, and for this one you have to take another feat to duplicate it, so I don't think it's that big of a deal.

No one complains that shifters can take shapes other than animals, even though druids can only do that through epic feats... what's the difference?

-The Souljourner

 

[Marius Delphus]

Or does a Druid's Wild shape class ability not count as a Special Quality (which would make it inelegible for the Quck Change feat)?

IMO, this is the case.