Europe rocks!

Banshee16

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I just got back from my first trip overseas, visiting Paris, Rome, and Venice, and I have to say, that place is awesome. I love history, so to actually walk in the footsteps of Augustus and Septimius Severus and other major names, to see Napoleon's tomb, Versailles, the Vatican, the Colosseum, Constantine's Arch, the Spanish Steps etc. Incredible! Such beautiful cities, and especially in Italy, super-friendly people. So much better than looking at these places in a picture book.

So warm in comparison to Canada....yeesh, Paris hits a low of -5 in the winter? Major difference from the -38 we had last winter.

And, she said "yes" in Paris, which means that for sure we'll have to return.

Now we've got the travel bug.....

Banshee
 

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I lived in Europe for 3 years, and return every once in a while.

Europe, indeed, rocks.

Some suggestions for the next time you go:

London, England- its WAY cool. So much to do and see.

Florence, Italy- culture out the ass + great food & shopping.

St. Petersburg, Russia- smaller and freindlier than Moscow, a great, beautiful city.

Munich, Germany- has a many great museums, including one of the greatest technology museums I've ever been in.

Greece- while Athens is impressive and full of history, the cruise of the islands (Santorini, Mykonos, Crete, Rhodos, etc.) is a lot cleaner and more romantic. Beautiful seas and sand, picturesque locations, great food.
 

Dannyalcatraz said:
I lived in Europe for 3 years, and return every once in a while.

Greece- while Athens is impressive and full of history, the cruise of the islands (Santorini, Mykonos, Crete, Rhodos, etc.) is a lot cleaner and more romantic. Beautiful seas and sand, picturesque locations, great food.


I'll second the motion. My wife and I took our honeymoon in Greece and had one of the best trips of our life. Athens is a great city to have fun in, but the islands are marvelous. Take two weeks if you can, and visit some of the smaller, more out-of-the-way ones. Swim a lot.

Learn the alphabet, if you don't know it already. At least being able to recognize place names is a must...

...and don't rent a car unless you have nerves of steel. The roads are chaos (a Greek word, and appropriately so).

If you come to Paris again, feel free to ask for advice. I've been living there for a year now. Go to the Ile St.-Louis and eat Berthillon's ice cream.

Ben
 

fuindordm said:
I'll second the motion. My wife and I took our honeymoon in Greece and had one of the best trips of our life. Athens is a great city to have fun in, but the islands are marvelous. Take two weeks if you can, and visit some of the smaller, more out-of-the-way ones. Swim a lot.

Learn the alphabet, if you don't know it already. At least being able to recognize place names is a must...

...and don't rent a car unless you have nerves of steel. The roads are chaos (a Greek word, and appropriately so).

If you come to Paris again, feel free to ask for advice. I've been living there for a year now. Go to the Ile St.-Louis and eat Berthillon's ice cream.

Ben

Thanks for the tip......actually Greece is on my list of places to visit. As is Ireland. But we definitely want to visit France and Italy again. Paris was beautiful. I could easily see myself living there. I already speak the language, so it may not be such a difficult adjustment. And the people there were way nicer than I'd been led to believe.

Your tip about driving was interesting.....I'd been told the same thing about Italy. So we walked everywhere and used public transportation. Traffic was really busy. It was funny because Europeans have much lower accident rates than Americans and Canadians....but I'm curious whether that's because there are fewer accidents, or because there are lots of little accidents but nobody reports them. We were noticing that 90% of cars we saw had dents and such.

We were staying in the Latin Quarter, a few blocks from the Sorbonne, and within walking distance of the Louvre. I found Paris had a very similar feeling as Montreal, but better, and without the negative political aspects of Montreal.

A funny observation I had was that everyone smelled nice in Paris. It was like everywhere we walked, people were wearing good perfume etc. Back home, since they instituted the "no smoking in public places, bars, or restaurants", I've been noticing a lot more B.O., so it was a nice change.

The Champs Elysees and l'Arc de Triomphe were awesome. I really liked how the restaurants position the seats on the patios all facing the road. It was pretty neat.

There was a store that I saw that I think was a gaming store, called "Descartes", but I didn't make it inside, as we were rather busy.

The Army Museum at les Invalides had really nice samples of plate armor, as well as some pretty cool swords and such.

Banshee
 

Europe said:
We're leaving together
But still it's farewell
And maybe we'll come back
to Earth, who can tell?
I guess there is no-one to blame
We're leaving ground (leaving ground)
Will things ever be the same again?

It's the final countdown
The final countdown

We're headed for Venus
And still we stand tall
'Cause maybe they've seen us
And welcome us all
With so many light years to go
And things to be found (to be found)
And soon we will all miss her so

It's the final countdown
The final countdown
The final countdown (The final countdown)
(Guitar solo)
The final countdown
It's the final countdown
The final countdown
The final countdown
It's the final countdown
We're leaving together
We'll all miss her so
It's the final countdown (The final countdown)
It's the final countdown
Europe rocks, indeed.
 



Banshee16 said:
Paris was beautiful. I could easily see myself living there. I already speak the language, so it may not be such a difficult adjustment. And the people there were way nicer than I'd been led to believe.

I find them very nice as well--very genuine, very people-oriented. My brother-in-law tells me that it's gotten a lot better, that 10 years ago even everyone was worried about money and things were more edgy. But what I really like is that when you make a friend here, they're a real friend--they don't do things halfway.

There's an english-language used bookstore in the Odeon (right next to the Latin quarter) called the San Francisco Bookstore. Not long after I arrived, I went in and chatted with the old guy who owned it. I asked him if he missed San Francisco, and he said no. "I've been here for six months, and so far I'm pretty happy with it too." I said.

"You just keep getting happier." he replied.

It's great to be living with people who don't think that work is the purpose of life.

And I also found, very quickly, a great group of gamers in Paris--the Gamefreaks. They're about half French and half expatriats of English-speaking countries, and we play in English.

Your tip about driving was interesting.....I'd been told the same thing about Italy. So we walked everywhere and used public transportation. Traffic was really busy. It was funny because Europeans have much lower accident rates than Americans and Canadians....but I'm curious whether that's because there are fewer accidents, or because there are lots of little accidents but nobody reports them. We were noticing that 90% of cars we saw had dents and such.

I've been in Italy too, and Greece is ten times worse. Or maybe I blocked out my memories of Italy, it was a long time ago...

A funny observation I had was that everyone smelled nice in Paris. It was like everywhere we walked, people were wearing good perfume etc. Back home, since they instituted the "no smoking in public places, bars, or restaurants", I've been noticing a lot more B.O., so it was a nice change.

My wife (who is French) would disagree. :-) But she takes the metro to work during rush hour, and one stinky person can be enough to ruin your day! I don't think the level of stinkage is higher than anywhere else, though.

There was a store that I saw that I think was a gaming store, called "Descartes", but I didn't make it inside, as we were rather busy.

Yep, it is. I've been in there once, and they have a lot of good board games and strategy games. The RPG shop is called Fireball, and it's also in the Odeon. They've got a nice basement with swords and axes on the wall that we game in sometimes.

Next time you're here feel free to join us in a game.

Ben
 

Glad you liked it. We spent three thousand years making it that good. :cool:

About cars; I don't know about the rest of Europe or the world, but in Italy minor accidents such as bumps and scratches are generally not reported since it's more advanteageous for both to settle informally rather than go through insurance. And if the damage is purely cosmetic, the damaged party sometimes just keeps the money and leaves the car dented.
 


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