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Some Norwegian names - in London now so I can't use the additional Norwegian letters
Greenland - Groenland
Iceland - Island
Norway - Norge
Sweden - Sverige
Finland - Finland
Denmark - Danmark
Denmark (The Faeroe Islands) - Faeroyene
Eire (Ireland) - Irland
The United Kingdom (England) - England
The United Kingdom (Wales) - Wales
The United Kingdom (Scotland) - Skotland
The United Kingdom (Northern Ireland) - Nord Irland
France - Frankrike
Spain - Spania
Portugal - Portugal
Andorra - Andorra
Belgium - Beliga
The Netherlands (Holland) - Nederland
Luxumberg - Luxemburg
Germany - Tyskland
Switzerland - Sveits
Lichtenstein - Lichtenstein
Italy - Italia
San Marcos -
Austria - Oesterike
Poland - Polen
The Czech Republic - Tsjekkia
Slovakia - Slovakia
Hungary - Ungarn
Romania - Romania
Bulgaria - Bulgaria
Slovenia - Slovenia
Croatia - Kroatia
Bosnia/Herzegovina - same
Serbia - same
Macedonia - Makedonia
Montenegro - same
Albania - same
Greece - Hellas/Grekenland
Turkey - Tyrkia
Estonia - Estland
Latvia - Lativa
Lithuania - Litauen
Belarus -
Ukraine - Ukrania
Moldova -
Russia - Russland
Georgia -
Armenia - same
Azerbaijian -
France (Corsica) - Korsika
Italy (Sardinia) - same
Italy (Sicily) - Sisilia
The United Kingdom (Gibrator) - Gibraltar
France (Monaco) - Monakko
Greece (Crete) - Kreta
Cyprus - Kypros
Malta - same
Portugal (The Azore Islands) - same
Some Norwegian names - in London now so I can't use the additional Norwegian letters
Greenland - Groenland
Iceland - Island
Norway - Norge
Sweden - Sverige
Finland - Finland
Denmark - Danmark
Denmark (The Faeroe Islands) - Faeroyene
Eire (Ireland) - Irland
The United Kingdom (England) - England
The United Kingdom (Wales) - Wales
The United Kingdom (Scotland) - Skotland
The United Kingdom (Northern Ireland) - Nord Irland
France - Frankrike
Spain - Spania
Portugal - Portugal
Andorra - Andorra
Belgium - Beliga
The Netherlands (Holland) - Nederland
Luxumberg - Luxemburg
Germany - Tyskland
Switzerland - Sveits
Lichtenstein - Lichtenstein
Italy - Italia
San Marcos -
Austria - Oesterike
Poland - Polen
The Czech Republic - Tsjekkia
Slovakia - Slovakia
Hungary - Ungarn
Romania - Romania
Bulgaria - Bulgaria
Slovenia - Slovenia
Croatia - Kroatia
Bosnia/Herzegovina - same
Serbia - same
Macedonia - Makedonia
Montenegro - same
Albania - same
Greece - Hellas/Grekenland
Turkey - Tyrkia
Estonia - Estland
Latvia - Lativa
Lithuania - Litauen
Belarus -
Ukraine - Ukrania
Moldova -
Russia - Russland
Georgia -
Armenia - same
Azerbaijian -
France (Corsica) - Korsika
Italy (Sardinia) - same
Italy (Sicily) - Sisilia
The United Kingdom (Gibrator) - Gibraltar
France (Monaco) - Monakko
Greece (Crete) - Kreta
Cyprus - Kypros
Malta - same
Portugal (The Azore Islands) - same
Bulak, 'South Brabant' most certainly isn't a province in Belgium. 'Brabant' was a province, but the 4th federal state reform in 1993 changed that, and in 1995 Brabant was split into 2 provinces, a dutch-speaking one, and a french-speaking one.
This is the list of Belgium's 10 provinces (alphabetically, grouped by state), with their capital for reference.
Flanders:
Antwerpen (Antwerpen)
Limburg (Hasselt)
Oost Vlaanderen (Gent)
Vlaams Brabant (Leuven)
West Vlaanderen (Brugge)
Wallonia:
Barbant Wallon (Wavre)
Hainaut (Mons)
Liège (Liège)
Luxembourg (Arlon)
Namur (Namur)
Brussel(s) is it's own state, and is one of the most hotly debated topics in Belgium. Technically surrounded by Vlaams Brabant, both the flemish and the walloon people claim it as theirs.
The final, and only point I'd like to make is this one: In Europe, there is more to classifying people than just asking them their home nation. Ask anyone from Corsica, Catalonia, Limburg, Sicily, Northern Ireland, Bretagne, Kosovo, Basque and who knows how many other regions. Nations are merely groupings of regions, held together through historical force of arms (i.e. conquered by, or liberated from, some, usually external, force). It is the true future of Europe to abolish these straight-jackets, and finally ensuring no group of people in Europe will ever try to dominate (or exterminate) any other group of people in Europe ever again.
This is the list of Belgium's 10 provinces (alphabetically, grouped by state), with their capital for reference.
Flanders:
Antwerpen (Antwerpen)
Limburg (Hasselt)
Oost Vlaanderen (Gent)
Vlaams Brabant (Leuven)
West Vlaanderen (Brugge)
Wallonia:
Barbant Wallon (Wavre)
Hainaut (Mons)
Liège (Liège)
Luxembourg (Arlon)
Namur (Namur)
Brussel(s) is it's own state, and is one of the most hotly debated topics in Belgium. Technically surrounded by Vlaams Brabant, both the flemish and the walloon people claim it as theirs.
The final, and only point I'd like to make is this one: In Europe, there is more to classifying people than just asking them their home nation. Ask anyone from Corsica, Catalonia, Limburg, Sicily, Northern Ireland, Bretagne, Kosovo, Basque and who knows how many other regions. Nations are merely groupings of regions, held together through historical force of arms (i.e. conquered by, or liberated from, some, usually external, force). It is the true future of Europe to abolish these straight-jackets, and finally ensuring no group of people in Europe will ever try to dominate (or exterminate) any other group of people in Europe ever again.
Kamard
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Ahh, languages. My true weakness.
I hope you all know I am swiping this entire thread for my own nefarious practices.
On another note, an interesting way to find out what a country calls itself is the CIA world factbook:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/
theres a ton of information buried there, and while I am sure some if not all of it is wrong (its American INTELLIGENCE. Heh.) its a fascinating read.
Brought to you by your friendly neighbours in the Central Intelligence Agency. Again, Heh.
I hope you all know I am swiping this entire thread for my own nefarious practices.
On another note, an interesting way to find out what a country calls itself is the CIA world factbook:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/
theres a ton of information buried there, and while I am sure some if not all of it is wrong (its American INTELLIGENCE. Heh.) its a fascinating read.
Brought to you by your friendly neighbours in the Central Intelligence Agency. Again, Heh.
Edena_of_Neith
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I appreciate and respect that there are many cultures and languages in Europe not shown on politcal maps read by Yours Truly.
That does not lessen their importance in any way, and this poll is not trying to lessen their importance either.
Anyone who thinks Normandy is merely another province of France, for example, needs to study their history!
The problem is that Yours Truly simply does not know his geography well enough to be able to point to and identify all of Europe's unique culture and languages (and this is unfortunate, and the result of ignorance on the part of Yours Truly.)
I know that in Spain, the Basque have their own culture and language.
I know that Normandy, in France, has it's own culture and language.
I know that in Germany, German is spoken differently from Lander to Lander (province to province.) I doubt Bavaria considers itself like unto Essen in the north.
I know that Russia is divided into a plethora of provinces, each with their own ethnic group and language, culture and history (anyone who does not distinguish Novgorod from Moscow ought to read their history.)
However, I do not know enough to be able to place everyone in the poll.
For this, you have my apologies.
If one part of Belgium speaks one language, and another part of Belgium speaks another language, I appreciate that this is a serious business.
In Europe, major wars have been fought over a few provinces speaking different languages (the Franco-Prussian War, for instance, gave Germany the French provinces of Lorraine and Alsaac (sorry if that's the wrong spelling.) which speak German and not French.))
All I can say is: your culture and language is worth being in any poll, and if this poll neglected it, it is the fault of Yours Truly who does not know his European Political Geography sufficiently.
That does not lessen their importance in any way, and this poll is not trying to lessen their importance either.
Anyone who thinks Normandy is merely another province of France, for example, needs to study their history!
The problem is that Yours Truly simply does not know his geography well enough to be able to point to and identify all of Europe's unique culture and languages (and this is unfortunate, and the result of ignorance on the part of Yours Truly.)
I know that in Spain, the Basque have their own culture and language.
I know that Normandy, in France, has it's own culture and language.
I know that in Germany, German is spoken differently from Lander to Lander (province to province.) I doubt Bavaria considers itself like unto Essen in the north.
I know that Russia is divided into a plethora of provinces, each with their own ethnic group and language, culture and history (anyone who does not distinguish Novgorod from Moscow ought to read their history.)
However, I do not know enough to be able to place everyone in the poll.
For this, you have my apologies.
If one part of Belgium speaks one language, and another part of Belgium speaks another language, I appreciate that this is a serious business.
In Europe, major wars have been fought over a few provinces speaking different languages (the Franco-Prussian War, for instance, gave Germany the French provinces of Lorraine and Alsaac (sorry if that's the wrong spelling.) which speak German and not French.))
All I can say is: your culture and language is worth being in any poll, and if this poll neglected it, it is the fault of Yours Truly who does not know his European Political Geography sufficiently.
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ninthcouncil
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Re: GB Counties
Ah, you old stick-in-the-mud. Some of these counties haven't existed since the local government reorganisations of the 1970's, and many of the others have had border changes. Greenwich and Bromley , for instance, aren't in Kent anymore, but in Greater London. Rutland has ceased to exist, and in fact a third of it is now underwater (that's a reservoir, not catastrophic coastal erosion! - it was a VERY small county).
blaster219 said:
Ah, you old stick-in-the-mud. Some of these counties haven't existed since the local government reorganisations of the 1970's, and many of the others have had border changes. Greenwich and Bromley , for instance, aren't in Kent anymore, but in Greater London. Rutland has ceased to exist, and in fact a third of it is now underwater (that's a reservoir, not catastrophic coastal erosion! - it was a VERY small county).
Edena_of_Neith
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Something similar just happened in our state of Kentucky.
The city of Louisville just annexed the entire county around it, known as Jefferson County.
This was done by agreement between the city government of Louisville and the officials of Jefferson County and municipalities within.
The result is a city of 350 square miles, twice the size of Detroit and roughly equal in size to Los Angeles and Chicago, with only 700,000 people.
Much of the new Louisville will actually be pristine forest, along with a generous area of farmland. Many suburban areas will now be in the city, and of course all of old Louisville will be in the new city.
Jeffersonville and the suburbs of Louisville that are in the state of Indiana, will still be independent, so Louisville will retain a metropolitan area of a sort.
We expect that the cities of Milwaukee, Fresno, Buffalo, and others may attempt to annex their counties as well.
If the city of Providence annexes it's county, it will become half of the state of Rhode Island, since Rhode Island only has two counties.
(Incidentally, if Los Angeles were to annex it's own county and the county neighboring it, it would extend all the way to the Nevada state line, and it would be as big as the state of Massachusetts.)
The city of Louisville just annexed the entire county around it, known as Jefferson County.
This was done by agreement between the city government of Louisville and the officials of Jefferson County and municipalities within.
The result is a city of 350 square miles, twice the size of Detroit and roughly equal in size to Los Angeles and Chicago, with only 700,000 people.
Much of the new Louisville will actually be pristine forest, along with a generous area of farmland. Many suburban areas will now be in the city, and of course all of old Louisville will be in the new city.
Jeffersonville and the suburbs of Louisville that are in the state of Indiana, will still be independent, so Louisville will retain a metropolitan area of a sort.
We expect that the cities of Milwaukee, Fresno, Buffalo, and others may attempt to annex their counties as well.
If the city of Providence annexes it's county, it will become half of the state of Rhode Island, since Rhode Island only has two counties.
(Incidentally, if Los Angeles were to annex it's own county and the county neighboring it, it would extend all the way to the Nevada state line, and it would be as big as the state of Massachusetts.)
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