Evasive Reflexes: what do you think about it?

[Egres]

Except, of course, that it uses the term "5-foot step," which has very specific meaning in 3e.

That suggests fairly strongly, then, that Evasive Reflexes doesn't allow one to ignore the normal rule limiting combatants to a single 5-foot step per round. ("Normal" entries appear only when the feat does create an exception to the normal rules.)

It doesn't create an exception to normal rules because it has anything to do with the standard 5ft step.

Note that that moving 5ft isn't always 5ft step, but a move of 5ft.

Not to mention that the text would be quite different: like "When an opponent gives you a chance to make an attack of opportunity, you can instead immediately take your 5-foot step."

 

[MarkB]

It doesn't create an exception to normal rules because it has anything to do with the standard 5ft step.

Note that that moving 5ft isn't always 5ft step, but a move of 5ft.

But in this case, the feat clearly states that it is a 5-foot step.

 

[Egres]

But in this case, the feat clearly states that it is a 5-foot step.

Right.

But "a" 5ft step.

 

[el-remmen]

Can anyone give some examples of things that require Combat Reflexes as a prereq? The only one I can find in the core rules is the Shadowdancer.

I don't know any official ones - but I have a bunch of homebrewed and house-ruled feats that require it.

 

[MarkB]

Can anyone give some examples of things that require Combat Reflexes as a prereq? The only one I can find in the core rules is the Shadowdancer.

Hindering Opportunist, Stalwart Defense, Robilar's Gambit, Vexing Flanker and Adaptable Flanker feats, from PHBII.

It looks like Robilar's Gambit would synergise with this just as well as Karmic Strike.

 

[Mark Chance]

Not to mention that the text would be quite different: like "When an opponent gives you a chance to make an attack of opportunity, you can instead immediately take your 5-foot step."

As opposed to someone else's 5-foot step?

 

[Infiniti2000]

Right.

But "a" 5ft step.

So "a" 5ft-step merely means 5ft of movement? Of course, they used the specific game mechanic term 5ft-step to make their meaning clear, and choosing "a" over "your" is what makes that so clear? Are you serious?

Regardless, you still can't take other 5ft-steps during the round. So, does Karmic Strike use "your" or the dreaded, ambiguous, and undefinable "a"?

 

[Knight Otu]

Right.

But "a" 5ft step.

As far as I recall, everything that allows the character to take a 5 foot step says "a 5-foot step" or "one 5-foot step."

Example Supreme Cleave (Complete Warrior, Frenzied Berserker and Knight Protector class ability): "[The character] can take a 5-foot step between attacks when using the Cleave or Great Cleave feat." The frenzied berserker description also points out that it is still limited to one such adjustment.
Example Sidestep (Miniatures Handbook, feat) "Once per round, when you make an attack of opportunity, you may take a 5-foot step afteryou attack. This 5-foot step doesn't count against your limit of one 5-foot step per round or against any movement you take on your turn."

 

[wmasters]

I'm not sure how this works, I'm no expert on these things, but assuming that the 5ft doesn't count against your extra movement...

Now if you've got a Spiked Chain, Combat Reflexes, Evasive Reflexes and a high Dex, does this not mean you can chose to not be caught in melee combat by someone without reach? By just 5ft stepping away as people come to attack you whenever they provoke coming through the square you threaten?

 

[Infiniti2000]

I'm not sure how this works, I'm no expert on these things, but assuming that the 5ft doesn't count against your extra movement...

Now if you've got a Spiked Chain, Combat Reflexes, Evasive Reflexes and a high Dex, does this not mean you can chose to not be caught in melee combat by someone without reach? By just 5ft stepping away as people come to attack you whenever they provoke coming through the square you threaten?

Not usually, if the opponent has enough movement. You only provoke one AoO due to movement, so after your first 5ft-step, the opponent can just keep moving towards you, provoking no more AoO's.