Exalted Deeds - Holy Ki Strike + Sanctify Natural Attack

[Fieari]

I'm not looking to start up the "can monks take Improved Natural Attack" thread again. Assuming that the ruling in your group is that they can, does that also mean you can take BOTH Holy Ki Strike AND Sanctify Natural Attack from the Book of Exalted Deeds, and have the two effects stack (for +2d6+1d4 holy damage)? It looks like they'd stack, but I want to be sure...

If it helps to not derail the thread, assume that this is a Troll monk or some other race that has natural weapons for CERTAIN.

 

[Korak]

If you want help in not derailing this thread, you might want to remove your last sentence. A troll monks claw is a completely different attack from its unarmed strike.

 

[Nail]

Korak: Fieari's last sentence is fine. It does NOT assume the troll monk would actually use its natural attack as a monk unarmed strike.

The agrument would be:

• Improved Natural Attack has a prereq of "Natural Attack",
• therefore a Troll monk could take the feat,
• and then apply it to the monk's Unarmed Strike, as all of the feat's prerequistes are met.

 

[Nail]

Assuming that the ruling in your group is that they can, does that also mean you can take BOTH Holy Ki Strike AND Sanctify Natural Attack from the Book of Exalted Deeds, and have the two effects stack (for +2d6+1d4 holy damage)?

Yes.

Sanctify Natural Attack "effects" a natural attack. If you believe (as the FAQ does) that you can misinterpret the phrase

...treated both as a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons....

to mean that a monk can take Improved Natural Attack, then you must also allow any other feat which "effects" Natural Weapons.

(....and, apparently, you can disregard the listed prerequistes....but that's another thread.)

 

[Korak]

Yes, I see that argument. I just thought that even mentioning it would make replies like ours more likely to happen. Wow, talk about self-fulfilling prophesy. Anyway, I don't have BoED in front of me, so I won't toss in an opinion on the actual question at hand.

/threadjack off