Excerpt: Archons (merged)

[GoodKingJayIII]

Besides, Angels were formed of the Astral sea, not the elemental chaos. Fallen Seraph beat me to it: give'm radiant damage, if you're so insistent.

Again, changing the abilities is well and good. I plan to ignore the Archon descriptor entirely and lump in the creatures as elite elemental soldiers. I expect Demons will take their place as the ultimate Elemental Chaos weapon. I'm going to have to wait until the books, but that's how I envision things.

But that's just me; it's not what we've been given.

 

[Scribble]

I don't think others are saying that there aren't differences. They have them. Likewise, I don't think it's matter of some similarity.

I think the argument is that they're too similar. I think plenty of evidence has been proffered to make that argument already. As someone said earlier though, it's a simply a matter of preference. Some are going to be bothered by it, others are not.

Me, I would've preferred more distinction between the two creature types. Frankly, the Archon fluff seems a lot more appropriate for Demons, based on what we know about their relationship to the Elemental Chaos.

But that's the point I think... They're SUPPOSED to be similar. They're the elite forces of two sides in an ancient war.

If they had been devised in some way that wasn't supposed to have anything to do with eachother and had so many similarities, I could see the point... But as it stands now?

 

[Sojorn]

Well, as long as we're on the topic, what element is this guy?:
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[Scribble]

Well, as long as we're on the topic, what element is this guy?:
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Awesomeium

 

[Sojorn]

Awesomeium

"You called for an Angel of Awesome?"

Actually, an Angel of Awe might be interesting. Or just generate way too many jokes at the table. Hm.

 

[lutecius]

Awesomeium

some dorkium and uglinum alloy

 

[Wolv0rine]

Well, as long as we're on the topic, what element is this guy?:
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Air, with a bronze fetish.

 

[Rechan]

I expect Demons will take their place as the ultimate Elemental Chaos weapon.

I don't know if it's the Ultimate Elemental Chaos weapon. The Abyss is a cancerous growth on the elemental chaos, spreading and melting away the EC. I imagine everything in the EC is scared Shivaless at the Abyss, but would definitely not call them the home team.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

I don't know if it's the Ultimate Elemental Chaos weapon. The Abyss is a cancerous growth on the elemental chaos, spreading and melting away the EC. I imagine everything in the EC is scared Shivaless at the Abyss, but would definitely not call them the home team.

Mhmm, also can't forget Demons are warped and twisted Elemental creatures. I imagine creatures of the Elemental Chaos when they see a Demon is simply reminded of what they once were. Which = Kill the abomination!

Hmm... I wonder if any Titans or Primordials have been consumed by the Abyss and become a Demon, could Orcus have once been a Primordial?

 

[Rechan]

Hmm... I wonder if any Titans or Primordials have been consumed by the Abyss and become a Demon, could Orcus have once been a Primordial?

If they haven't, that's a great idea for an adventure. Especially if people from the Elemental Chaos seek help from the PCs.

It's a shame the EC isn't really tied directly to the Material; a titan or something in the EC being corrupted would effect the material world if they were. Then that sort of story has particular baring.

However, a Primordial going Demonic is probably something epic in its own right, since the Primordials are... well, weren't they locked away, or dormant, or something? Ergo why they're not up and rattling around?