Excerpt: Paragon paths (merged)

[RefinedBean]

I'd like to toss in my vote for just never referring to characters in-game by their character class.

Oh, that might be going a bit far. What's better is if they describe themselves as a particular class, and then tear down any pre-conceived notions the other characters might have.

But in general, yes, the best RP (and even battle moments) do not stem from your example convo.

Of course, I feel bad for Joe. He's obviously not taking advantage of most of his abilities.

 

[ThirdWizard]

PC3: Look! Now I'm a Walker!

The eyes of a ranger are upon you.

 

[Wormwood]

PC3: Look! Now I'm a Walker!

One of my guiltiest pleasures is Dungeons & Dragons 2: Wrath of the Dragon God. And nothing tickles me more than dialogue like "Barbarian, get a hold of yourself!" and "Tread carefully, rogue."

Love it!

 

[Fifth Element]

I just hope they finally get rid of the name "druid". After all, "druid" specifically refers to the ancient Celtic priest/magistrate/scholars of that name, not some shapeshifting nature-magician. It's a specific term referring to a specific culture.

[sblock]What?[/sblock]

 

[Spatula]

After some more reading of the paths presented... my reaction is mostly "meh." They look like 3.X prestige classes translated into 4E. Nothing seems particularly innovative about them. I was hoping paragon paths would have a different emphasis in terms of character abilities--more "hero of the kingdom" and less "bigger badder dungeon-crawler."

I think your expectations are off, if you were expecting followers & stronghold stuff in the paths. The dungeon-crawling probably goes all the way up to level 30, given that the designers have talked of epic-level traps (the form the dungeon takes will change with levels, of course). Anyway, it's a feature that the rules only cover combat interactions, right?

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

This thread has gone so far off the deep end of any kind of relevance that I don't even know what to say.

A WotC employee lets us know there are 30+ paragon paths and the argument over paragon class names continue as if nothing happened.

Oh, that... That would hardly affect the play at your game table. I mean, we're talking about Scrabble 4E, right?

 

[Kahoots]

New to the 4E forum, eh?

I agree with your post pretty much in its entirety. Considering the terms we gamers throw around that non-gamers would not recognize, I don't see why we should be upset by using a name that's not a part of standard English, whatever that is.

I concur!

On the topic of 30+ Paragon Paths, my guess falls into the realm of 32 Paths in total - 4 for each of the 8 main classes.

This seems pretty good on the whole except for the Warlock which apparently would have 1 for each of the four different pacts which is a bit of a shoehorn. The other option would be that the total is higher than 32 and some classes get more options in the PHB than others.

 

[Andor]

I'd like to toss in my vote for just never referring to characters in-game by their character class.

PC1: I'm Joe. I'm a Ranger.
PC2: Oh, so you patrol a wilderness region as member of law enforcement?
PC1: Uh, no...
PC2: Do you, per chance, rove between isolated communities and trade furs?
PC1: No, I don't do that either.
PC2: Why are you a ranger then?
PC1: Because I fight with two weapons?
PC3: I'm a Fighter! I fight!
PC2: Do you now.
PC3: Well... not right now. Guess I'm a Talker right now.
PC2: Ok then. So, Joe, what is it that you do?
PC1: I guard caravans.
PC2: So you're a guard.
PC1: I can't be a Guardian of the Northern Wastes until I level up a bit.
PC2: What?
PC3: Look! Now I'm a Walker!

"Who are you?"
"I am Delenn!"

 

[RefinedBean]

I'm just hoping not all PPs are class-based...but it's the PHB, so they might go that route and save other ones for the rest of the core books, and forthcoming splats. I can see the DMG having the Martial, Arcane, Divine, and Leadership PPs, for example: something very general to give NPCs when you don't have time to be really focused.

I'd love to see some based on a worshipped deity, a chosen homeland, or even ones based on the specific lands/environs that you went through your Heroic levels in.

Now can we please argue about the English language some more? I have to get some vocab practice in for Scrabble at GenCon.

 

[malcolm_n]

I'd like to toss in my vote for just never referring to characters in-game by their character class...

OMG, somebody needs to make that into a comic strip