Excerpt: Paragon paths (merged)

RefinedBean said:
I can see the DMG having the Martial, Arcane, Divine, and Leadership PPs, for example: something very general to give NPCs when you don't have time to be really focused.
*shudder* I see what you are saying, but I would hate for NPC generation to use anything remotely like a class progression system.

I prefer my NPCs a la carte.
 

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Fifth Element said:
New to the 4E forum, eh?

I agree with your post pretty much in its entirety. Considering the terms we gamers throw around that non-gamers would not recognize, I don't see why we should be upset by using a name that's not a part of standard English, whatever that is.
Halfling
Tiefling
Theurge
 

RefinedBean said:
I'm just hoping not all PPs are class-based...but it's the PHB, so they might go that route and save other ones for the rest of the core books, and forthcoming splats. I can see the DMG having the Martial, Arcane, Divine, and Leadership PPs, for example: something very general to give NPCs when you don't have time to be really focused.

I'd love to see some based on a worshipped deity, a chosen homeland, or even ones based on the specific lands/environs that you went through your Heroic levels in.

Now can we please argue about the English language some more? I have to get some vocab practice in for Scrabble at GenCon. :)
But that would imply players have to also get the dmg (like in 3.x) to get the full list of options. Per WotC, player material will stay strict to player books. The same is true with monsters and DM's. If there will be a Role Paragon Path, it'll be in the PHB.
 

Engilbrand said:
I teach English and German in an American high school. I'm also 25. I can guarantee that I don't have the same view on language that the other English teachers have. As far as I'm concerned, "they" and "their" can be used as 3rd person singular pronouns. "One" is stupid. I prefer "If a student doesn't have anything to do during seminar, they will have to go get a book from my bookcase." to "If one does not have a book, then one must retrieve one from the bookcase." Blah.

Gasp.

Heretic!

You will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes. :)

I taught English for a few years, and I'm only five years older than you. Egads man! Of course, the best form of your example sentence is: "If a student doesn't have anything to do during a seminar, he will...". "She" is perfectly acceptable here, too. Either one is OK. "One" is inelegant, but "their" is heretical!

:)

Woohoo! Thirty Paragon Paths in the PHB I. That's good. It should provide a little diversity, and leave plenty of room for expansion.

Thaumaturge.
 
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Thaumaturge said:
Woohoo! Thirty Paragon Paths in the PHB I. That's good. It should provide a little diversity, and leave plenty of room for expansion.

Thaumaturge.
Not thirty. More than thirty! All for less than thirty-five dollars! That's about a dollar per path!
 

Plane Sailing said:
English:
"It not only borrows words from other languages; it has chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary."

(I can't attribute this quote)

The exact quote is:

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." - James D. Nicoll

It's in my sigblock on the WotC site. With trollop substituted in for whore because their censor is nuts. Incidentally, Nicoll is "one of us." He's an RPG and sci-fi reviewer, and used to own a game store. The quote was posted on a newsgroup back in 1990 and has been erroneously attributed to many people, but actually originated with Nicoll.
 
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Thornir Alekeg said:
Not thirty. More than thirty! All for less than thirty-five dollars! That's about a dollar per path!

Good point. With the purchase of your more than thirty paragon paths, you get all of the base classes and the entire system for free. Essentially, anyone not buying a PHB is burning money out of hatred.

:D

Thaumaturge.
 

Thornir Alekeg said:
Not thirty. More than thirty! All for less than thirty-five dollars! That's about a dollar per path!

Hah! This made me smile :)

Buy our paragon paths for a buck each, and included free is 300 pages of other less useful rules! hehe. It's such a good deal you'd be crazy not to buy it!
 

malcolm_n said:
But that would imply players have to also get the dmg (like in 3.x) to get the full list of options. Per WotC, player material will stay strict to player books. The same is true with monsters and DM's. If there will be a Role Paragon Path, it'll be in the PHB.

Huh, didn't know they had made that promise! Let's see if they keep it. ;)

I don't really know how they'd do role paths, but I do like to be surprised. It seems to me that PPs leave way more wriggle room than PrCs, and it's especially nice that you probably don't have to tailor your character from level 1 to get certain PPs. Awesome.
 

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