Exeunt gnomes: bang or whimper?


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Hairfoot said:
I think that's partially true, but my indifference toward gnomes is mostly because dwarves make them redundant. They're too similar, IMO, for both to warrant a berth in the PHB, and mythically they're the same thing.
World of Warcraft managed to make gnomes unique race with clear and fun identity. Surely WotC is can do that too. I won't mind if they outright copy WoW if that's what it takes. :]
 

The Merciful said:
World of Warcraft managed to make gnomes unique race with clear and fun identity. Surely WotC is can do that too. I won't mind if they outright copy WoW if that's what it takes. :]
The Warcraft gnomes (and EverQuest gnomes) were both inspired by tinker gnomes, although I suspect each designer would say they were actually inspired by BD&D's Top Ballista, which presented tinker gnomes, but in a much less silly way. (For one thing, they were successful little steampunkers, not disasters on two feet.)

Obviously, there are a lot of people who disagree with that in their D&D, which is why I posted my Unified Theory of Gnomes that Trench linked to up-thread.
 


I will miss them PHB, but I have gotten my group away from only playing races out of the PHB and experimenting with the MM a little. In my game...where no one plays one...they are the exotic traders, they travel the world and move goods from one land to the next. I see no reason this cannot continue under 4E.
 

I'll always love gnomes because, in our 2e campaign, they had an international statue-building conspiracy that magically made them into hill giant-sized gnomes... and transformed the world into 3e midstream.

Now THAT'S a Napoleon complex!
 

Well, gnomes moving out of the PHB will mean that they won't have a racial feat tree like humans, half-elves and the rest do - they'll just have to rely on the generic feats that everyone else can choose from. That'll certainly make them less attractive as a race.
 

Thornir Alekeg said:
Old style halflings disappeared? Where did they go? I assumed they stayed right where they were and those fit halflings we saw were just the ones that could be coaxed off the sofa and away from their smokeweed long enough to kill some beasties and make some loot. Its amazing what just a little exercise can do.


:)

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