Experience

Jemal said:
I didn't think it would be too much of a problem, I guess it's obviously I just didn't think. I'm not too sure exactly how to deal with it, I was hoping to just find some way to settle Eedrick down IC. I'ld much rather not have anyone leave over this, but if somebody feels they have too, well it's no fun to MAKE people stay against their will..
Well, I sure not going to want to have other people to leave over the action of my character.

I'm also not in the habit of role-playing my character in anyway other than how they would ask. This isn't what I, Adam “Joe shome”, would do its what Eedrick would do and to be honest I think I've played him based upon his history perfectly so far...

Jemal said:
As to the IC question, either I missed it, haven't responded YET, or answered a question from someone else that I thought answered it as well. In any case, I'll check it out.
Eedrick's question, “I ask again, how can the rescue of one princess mater in the light of what is going on up north?”

What he is asking for is what makes her so special when there are obviously other threats to both their counties.

I've never been one to simply settle for the whole "oh he adventures." No one just adventures, not even in the real word, we all are motivated to do something and the characters we portray should have the same motivations be it serving a deity, greed, family, honor, the greater good, or country.

For Eedrick it’s really all about family but since he has none its county, which is basically his surrogate family. Right now his county is in danger and he doesn’t see how helping a country, which he hates beyond belief and see each citizen of that country as the one responsible for the death of his true family, can at all help his country. With out the above answer he cannot in good faith turn his back upon his country and family.

Eedrick isn’t trying to be difficult, well at least not since we started the “briefing” but his tolerance is low for childish behavior, he’s just looking for answers to his questions and to be honest his behavior could be ALLOT worse. From his point of view not to many people are taking this very serious, We have one drunk, (sorry matt) one that could be drunk, (sorry Isida ) one that is fainting and crying. (sorry Silvermage)

Anyhow we might as well fix these issues out of character before we try to fix anything in character so don’t expect any IC posts from me in till this is fixed.
 

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Oy. I hadn't been checking out the OC thread and had wondered what happened to the main one.

Can't a good compromise be just making up a little faster? Surely for the sake of party unity you can have your character decide to accept a half-decent argument?

B-S, why can't Eadrick accept that Llewlyn is doing this for family, just like Eadrick. That seems plausable enough.

Jemal, in spite of the various counter-arguments and the trouble that it is now causing, does the "military training that emphacizes study of human anatomy makes you hate everyone" thing still stand? I had kinda assumed I didnt have to do it after you did not respond to a series of strong posts against it from multiple players.

Personally, I;d like the see the story moved along and the conflict sublimated by more pressing concerns.
 

DM_Matt said:
B-S, why can't Eadrick accept that Llewlyn is doing this for family, just like Eadrick. That seems plausable enough.

Plausible to me and plausible to you but not to Eedrick nor did I ever say that Eedrick would rescue his cousin when there are obvious, at least to him, much graver concerns that must be dealt with.

Would it hunt him for the rest of his years? Indeed it would and he would try to do everything in his power to seek retribution.

DM_Matt said:
Jemal, in spite of the various counter-arguments and the trouble that it is now causing, does the "military training that emphacizes study of human anatomy makes you hate everyone" thing still stand? I had kinda assumed I didnt have to do it after you did not respond to a series of strong posts against it from multiple players.

I think its sort of late, I'm not going to reboot my character his background is finished and I have strong feelings abut changing... well for anything. Backgrounds aren't written simply to be forgotten when their not convenient to the game. They are there to gauge how your character, not you, will react to a situation.

Anyhow I imagine that’s a pretty unique belief but that’s how I approach all of my characters and games. :)
 

Jemal, in spite of the various counter-arguments and the trouble that it is now causing, does the "military training that emphacizes study of human anatomy makes you hate everyone" thing still stand? I had kinda assumed I didnt have to do it after you did not respond to a series of strong posts against it from multiple players.

Many people may not agree with me, but I still stand by my position that ranger favoured enemy involves at least a general dislike of / feeling of superiority over the 'enemy'. I thought I had said this earlier, but if not then I guess I'm saying it now. People may have very good reasons that they don't believe the same thing, but my position is here.

I think its sort of late, I'm not going to reboot my character his background is finished and I have strong feelings abut changing... well for anything. Backgrounds aren't written simply to be forgotten when their not convenient to the game. They are there to gauge how your character, not you, will react to a situation.

Anyhow I imagine that’s a pretty unique belief but that’s how I approach all of my characters and games.

And it's a valid one, as everyone's entitled to their own opinions/beliefs/etc. While it may make some of the problems a little harder to solve, it's not really THAT bad, I don't think. I'm still actually trying to figure out whether the problems are b/c Eadrick doesn't want to go after the princess, or b/c he's got problems with his opposing country..

Either way, it's fairly easy to fix IC:
If it's b/c he doesn't want to go after the princess, well I had allready assumed some of the party would want to deal with the army instead, so I have taken that into account in my planning. In the end it will be up to you as a group to decide whether to go after the army or the princess, but once we've fixed any other problems, you'll see that it won't be TOO hard of a decision.
(BTW, Eadrick should remember that the only people who can cure the Emperor of his OWN country are the same people who have the princess... just in case it matters to you.)

If its b/c of problems with the opposing country, well that should be fairly easy to work out IC as well.. even the worst of enemies band together in times of need to save themselves from the greater threat. (And, while doing so, they may even come to trust each other.. or maybe just not hate each other.. or maybe their feelings won't change at all. You never know)

SO, if there are any problems besides that, lets post them so they can be dealt with and we can return to the game.
 

Jemal said:
Many people may not agree with me, but I still stand by my position that ranger favoured enemy involves at least a general dislike of / feeling of superiority over the 'enemy'. I thought I had said this earlier, but if not then I guess I'm saying it now. People may have very good reasons that they don't believe the same thing, but my position is here.

I have no issues with the above, I don't agree with it nor does it say or imply it in the ranger description, but it doesn't truly effect my portrayal of my character, as he is a real pain anyhow.

Jemal said:
I'm still actually trying to figure out whether the problems are b/c Eadrick doesn't want to go after the princess, or b/c he's got problems with his opposing country..

I really thought I had touched upon this enough but I try to lay it out again. His homeland is threatened from the North and as far as he knows there is nothing to gain from going after the princess. If she’s some epic sorceress or can someway somehow help with the invasion he might consider going after her but in till then he would rather worry about the army and let the princess solve her own issues.

As for his problems with the other country... From what he has seen from the good prince he quickly come to the conclusion that if he did inherent the throne it might be the best thing that ever happened too Flynn.

Jemal said:
(BTW, Eadrick should remember that the only people who can cure the Emperor of his OWN country are the same people who have the princess... just in case it matters to you.

Not trying to be a pain but he's not trusting enough of James to take that a face value... (I guess he's from Missouri. :lol)

Jemal said:
If its b/c of problems with the opposing country, well that should be fairly easy to work out IC as well.. even the worst of enemies band together in times of need to save themselves from the greater threat.

I agree this has been documented in history many time, the most famous and recent time would be WWII when the USA bailed out the USSR. Of course there’s not been any discussion of the invasion on the border than could unite the group only the decision of the elven princess that would almost certainly.
 






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