FFG Legendary Class contest submissions

Sorry...

I'm gonna try to get everything edited by early next week (or earlier) and sent back to the writers (if need be). Then we'll move to the next stage.

Sorry I'm slow, I've been working on multiple projects over the past weeks, and real life has a way of getting in the mix. I want to do this right, though.

Thanks everyone.

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Some more general tips:

  • Get the Dragon Magazine Writer's Guidelines and the Dungeon Guidelines. Follow them for issues of style, capitalization, and stat blocks. (For example" the hamfist strike does 4d6 points of damage" instead of "4d6 damage".) Be sure to specify types of damage as well (electrical, cold, heat).

    Use US English spellings (industry standard, even though I like British spellings too).

    When making a list, use commas before an "and". For example "kobolds, carrots, and otyugh spit makes a nice stew for a hill giant." (I acknowledge that it's accepted practice to leave off this comma.) Why? It assures the understanding of the list's continuation and eliminates problems when one must use "and" in the list elsewhere. For example, "Everyone bring your sword, shield, bow and arrows, and your armor."

    Don't capitalize the name of your prestige class or any other noun in your writing unless it's a proper noun. For example, "Exalted Storm Lin Fu Myan" is fine, while "the Storm loves to chop off people's heads" is not.
Here are three classes ready for reworking. My comments are in red. Some of them are just suggestions, others are recommended, and still others are required. Which is which should be apparent, but if you have any doubts, ask me. In general, any rules clarifications I added are required changes.

The Storm
King's Warden
Weapon of God

I also included a PDF of a rough layout page design. Opinions are welcome.

Design Rough

Thanks!

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The King's Warden

Here are three classes ready for reworking. My comments are in red. Some of them are just suggestions, others are recommended, and still others are required. Which is which should be apparent, but if you have any doubts, ask me. In general, any rules clarifications I added are required changes

I've had a read through your work on the King's Warden... I'll try to have a response for you by the end of the week... (I'm moving buildings at work so unfortunately I can make no promises...:) )

I liked the look of the "ruff design" for the layout, but I may be a little bias there given that you used the Warden as an example... I'm trying to be objective... I promise... :D

seriously, I like the look and hope others do too... has any thought been given to inclusion of 'iconic' characters as examples of our Legendary Classes and also art work...?

and one last question, has anyone received their copy of Path of the Sword yet...? It may just be that because I live on the other side of the planet it's taking it's sweet time getting here, but I just wanted to check...

keep up the hard work Khur... it's looking good...
 

Some answers...

I'm still kicking around the idea of art and the layout grid. Black and white line art would be best for a PDF. I'm open to contributions from any of the authors, but I'd like to set a high standard.

I've not gotten my Path of the Sword, but I figure the typical "allow 4-8 weeks for delivery". (It hasn't been that long and Gen Con got in the way.)

I also hope d20 dwarf and the gang throw us another contest for Path of Magic and the other Path books. Maybe we can actually get some of our stuff into these books.

Organization designs might be a good contest idea too.

I hope FFG is listening!


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prompt answers

thanx Khur...

Kip the Bold has been posting art work (predominantly b&w line) in this thread.

I posted a suggestion that "we" may be interested but it may well be worth approacing him more directly...

I guess another problem with living in Australia is that I don't truly appreciate how big an impact GenCon has publishers and organisations in the industry... guess I'll just have to be patient and wait for my book like everyone else, huh...? ;)

I'd love to see contests for any other FFG 'Path' books... I've already written a sorcerer LgC for one of my players and really would love to see how it compares to others...

maybe we should be sending niggling little messages to d20dwarf designed at provoking him into action... ;)
or maybe we should just let him get some work done...

if there's anything I can do to help out, let me know...
 

additional Legendary Ability

Well Khur, you asked for one more so here it is...

I figured I'd get you (and anyone else who caresto) to look at it before I add it to the final draft of the King's Warden...

Defender of the Realm (Ex): Continually battling similar types of creatures in his role as protector results in the king’s warden developing exceptional tactics and skills for fighting these creatures. When the warden gains this ability, he chooses a number of creature types equal to his power level, following the same rules that govern a ranger’s favoured enemy selection (particularly those rules relating to humanoids and outsiders). The creature types selected should reflect the monsters prevalent in the realm that the king’s warden protects and must be approved by the game master. When he battles a monster that falls within any of the creature types chosen, the king’s warden receives a +2 dodge bonus to his armor class against attacks made by these creatures as well as a +2 damage bonus to any successful attacks he makes on them in return.


some feedback would obviously be greatly appreciated...

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My take on your power...

The power is an excellent idea. Drawing from examples in other sourcebooks of similar abilities, here's how I might put it:

Defender of the Realm (Ex): The king's warden develops exceptional tactics in defending his realm from the depredations of creatures that are common threats therein. The warden may select a number of opponents equal to the power level of this ability (subject to GM approval). These foes must come from a narrower selection than the ranger's favored enemies; the warden may not select "orcs", but instead must select some specific group of orcs like "the Green Tooth Orcs of the Blarkney Hills". Further, the warden may select members of his own race that come from a group opposed to the warden's protected dominion—soldiers of an enemy empire, for example. Even a diverse group that creates a common threat may be selected, such as all bandits from a local region. The warden's familiarity with these creatures, groups, or peoples grants him a +2 dodge bonus to AC, a +2 bonus to attack and damage rolls, and a +2 bonus to Sense Motive checks. These bonuses stack with favored enemy bonuses from other class abilities or feats.

One might also consider giving the warden a bonus attack of opportunity should such foes be caught in a condition that allows such an attack.

What do you think?

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(EDIT) BTW, I want all authors to come up with an iconic character example for their class. If this is too much for anyone, let me know, and I'll make the character using your class. Add new magic items and spells for your character if you want (subject to editing, of course). Feel free to expand on your class with additional information. For example, the king's warden begs for an accompanying prestige class: the deputy warden.

On that note, this is why the Legendary Class should also have an iconic name. A deputy warden could just as easily be called a king's warden. If the leader of such wardens were called, say, Royal High Warden, the distinction would be clear. There's only one Royal High Warden, but there could be many king's wardens.

This is why I'm changing my class' name to something more singular—from Green Warden to High Guardian of the Green, Land's Heart Guardian, or some such thing (still tossing ideas about). Perhaps I'll make a prestige class to signify non-legendary members of the same order and call them green guardians (to distinguish them from the king's wardens).
 
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Iconics

thanx for the comments on the power... I'll give it one final working then add it to the full document and get it off to you ASAP... I was thinking of wording the list of "enemies" a little differently... maybe... we'll see after I have another look at it...

what format should the iconic LgC characters be prepared in...? just wanting to know so I'm not doing more work than you want and you're not left with a major editing headache...

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just another quick question... what "restrictions" (legal or otherwise) are there pertaining to the further submission of this material (ie the classes themselves) to other forums (either online or hard copy)...?
 

Answers....

Do what you want when it comes to the character you make. Make it conform to the standard stat block (found in Dungeon, or the Standard Stat Block site.)

The Legendary Class you designed is your intellectual property; legally you can do as you wish with it. One thing to keep in mind is that we're making an OGC netbook, so you're class is OGC. If you don't want that, then you have to designate what part of your writing is product identity. I'm personally reserving all my character background text and his name as product identity, but little else.

Based on examples I've seen elsewhere (The Everquest RPG), one can require lifted OGC to cite its source, but I'm not sure about it. Regardless, the legal pages of the netbook can request that anyone lifting the material simply cite where it came from as a gentlepersons' agreement.

As for submitting the work to another source, I'd say tell them that it's going into an OGC netbook. See if they have a problem. I'd also say that if you can get paid for the work, but having it appear in the netbook puts a prospective buyer off, take the LgC from the netbook, and get paid.

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gotta love Answers...

:) thanx Khur...

I'll get the King's Warden iconic done soon but I'll wait until the Maitre LgC has been edited a little before starting on that one...

I was mainly asking about the submission issue because there is a small rpg group in Perth that has a little publication that always needs additional content... I thought it might be good to offer something new like the LgC's... thanx for the tips about OGC etc... I'll probably do something similar to yourself in terms of claiming product identity, but I'll see how it pans out...

thanx for the link to the Stat Block site too... most helpful...

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