Fields of Blood: The Book of War sold out

[MarauderX]

Personally, I'd drop $40 (US) for a deluxe edition, even though I already have the softcover copy.

Me too. I am anxiously awaiting delivery of the softcover copy, as I am not sure if I will be getting it before a second printing...

 

[Treebore]

People,

Not everyone has the financial means to drop $40 here and there, so a second run in HB may be cool with people who haven't bought it yet but know they should be getting an outstanding product from all the hype they probably heard.

However, a companion book would be economically fair to the whole consumer market, not just the ones with extra cash to throw away.

 

[Alaric_Prympax]

I realize that no one from Eden has said that they are going to print a 'Deluxe Hardcover' yet but I just want to voice MO...

I agree with those not wanting a 'Deluxe' version, I just bought a copy of the 1st printing, I can NOT justify to myself nor to others that I need to spend not just another $30 but an additional $10 for a book that I just bought that is now hardback and has a little more material that was left out of the first printing.

A companion volume with different material is another story however, that I can justify, that way she won't kill me.

 

[JoeGKushner]

People,

Not everyone has the financial means to drop $40 here and there, so a second run in HB may be cool with people who haven't bought it yet but know they should be getting an outstanding product from all the hype they probably heard.

However, a companion book would be economically fair to the whole consumer market, not just the ones with extra cash to throw away.

Based on what I've seen sell, I disagree. The larger books, especially those in hardcover, tend to do better. How many books even hit the 64 page run these days? Heck, even 96 page is on the light side of things. When you need a 128 page book to cover a minor race in a setting like the Scarred Lands... well, the days of the 32 page book are over, the 64 probably not too long to go.

I do agree that not everyone has the funds to drop $40 but if you haven't bought it by now, you might not have say, because it wasn't in hardcover. And yes, I have friends who've avoided it for that reason. A deluxe edition might not sell at all but based on other 'revised' and revisioned books, including Dream Pod 9, not to mention the various Ravenloft books, it looks like that's the way to go.

 

[Arnwyn]

Based on what I've seen sell, I disagree.

You disagree that a companion volume would be economically fair to those who already bought the original and contributed to it being sold out? Uh.... that's a screwy thing to say.

...it looks like that's the way to go.

Indeed. And yet another reason to save my money and avoid those companies. No surprise there's a d20 glut with poor sales. Constant regurgitation and re-hashing, with little added value for the cost, seems to be "the way to go".

 

[bolen]

Do you have plans to support this product with additional games.

Congrats this is the best of the war rules I have read

 

[Silveras]

Based on what I've seen sell, I disagree. The larger books, especially those in hardcover, tend to do better. How many books even hit the 64 page run these days? Heck, even 96 page is on the light side of things. When you need a 128 page book to cover a minor race in a setting like the Scarred Lands... well, the days of the 32 page book are over, the 64 probably not too long to go.

I do agree that not everyone has the funds to drop $40 but if you haven't bought it by now, you might not have say, because it wasn't in hardcover. And yes, I have friends who've avoided it for that reason. A deluxe edition might not sell at all but based on other 'revised' and revisioned books, including Dream Pod 9, not to mention the various Ravenloft books, it looks like that's the way to go.

Don't most 'revised' books come out 2-3 years, not 2-3 months, after the original ? Isn't WotC being flamed mercilessly for releasing 3.5 only 3 years after 3.0 ?

 

[JoeGKushner]

Don't most 'revised' books come out 2-3 years, not 2-3 months, after the original ? Isn't WotC being flamed mercilessly for releasing 3.5 only 3 years after 3.0 ?

No. As noted several times, Dream Pod 9 sold out of their Mecha Compendium, revised and expanded it, put it into hardcover, and is selling it now in that format.

Others haven't been 3 years either from my recollection. For example, Denizens of Dread and other Ravenloft books have been less than 2 years. Most revised books also aren't revised immediately because they didn't sell out like Fields of Blood did. As we've seen, Bastion recently had to destroy inventory to make room for other product. No point in doing a revision of books still in the warehouse.

 

[Silveras]

No. As noted several times, Dream Pod 9 sold out of their Mecha Compendium, revised and expanded it, put it into hardcover, and is selling it now in that format.

Others haven't been 3 years either from my recollection. For example, Denizens of Dread and other Ravenloft books have been less than 2 years. Most revised books also aren't revised immediately because they didn't sell out like Fields of Blood did. As we've seen, Bastion recently had to destroy inventory to make room for other product. No point in doing a revision of books still in the warehouse.

Note that I said "most" not "all". That recognizes the one (1) exception mentioned thus far (your references to Dream Pod 9). Note also that because you were pleased to see them do this does not mean that other customers who bought the original softcover were equally pleased to see the hardcover deluxe edition. I do not know how they reacted.

However, that still does not address the point that *usually* revisions come out on a scale of 2+ years rather than 2+ months after the original release. Even shortening the window from 2-3 years to 1-2 is still 12 to 24 times as long as Fields of Blood has been out.

You like the idea of buying the same book +10% added content so soon after initial release; fine. I don't. I would feel ripped off.

 

[Treebore]

No. As noted several times, Dream Pod 9 sold out of their Mecha Compendium, revised and expanded it, put it into hardcover, and is selling it now in that format.

Others haven't been 3 years either from my recollection. For example, Denizens of Dread and other Ravenloft books have been less than 2 years. Most revised books also aren't revised immediately because they didn't sell out like Fields of Blood did. As we've seen, Bastion recently had to destroy inventory to make room for other product. No point in doing a revision of books still in the warehouse.

Let me clarify my statements. I have no problem with them re-releasing the original content, with errata corrections, in a HB format, and charging more because of the more expensive format.

If, however, they were to ADD new material to "force" people who want complete and up to date rules to buy it; i would avoid them like the plague. This is irregardless of whether they put it into HB or keep it softcover. If any publisher wants to verify the seriousness of MY statements they are free to come and look at my books. One of the first things they should notice is that I own NOTHING 3.5 that has been put out by WOTC. I own 3.5 material by other companies though.

Besides, their overall profit margin should be higher with selling the original AND book with "expanded" rules and options, assuming that everyone who bought the first buys the second, or most everyone. Plus the rules set in the second book should be just as good as those in the first.