Fiendish Codex II next month--Any scoop/rumors/etc.?

I like the idea of the hag countess being dead, but Glasya shouldn't be a lord. At least I'd prefer one of the previous cast out lords, or a raised archduke.

At this point it seems being a lord of one of the layers of the abyss is a safer job than being a lord of the nine.

Apparently the kocrachon either got renamed or not updated.
 

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Wycen said:
Apparently the kocrachon either got renamed or not updated.

It does seem bizarre that there's a new 'torture devil' introduced in the book when that role is already and explicitely filled by the Kocrachon.
 

Shemeska said:
Is anything said about previous Lords of the 9 who held control of some of the layers previous to the already known Lords?

Zariel is mentioned several times, a Geryion in the description of Stygia, and als the (now dead) Hag Countess for Malbolge. But the text never goes into detail (only when describing the death of the Hag Countess).

Is there anything about the ruins beneath Mammon's current capital city in Minauros?

Two cities on the layer Minauros are detailed: The Sinking City and Jangling Hiter, but none are named the capital of Mammon and none have ruins below them described. What would the capital be? a City named Minauros City is shown on a map, but not mentioned in the description of the layer.

What is said about the ultimate fate of Moloch?

I haven't found anything about him yet. Which layer did he rule?
 


Wycen said:
Apparently the kocrachon either got renamed or not updated.

Well, they've pretty much dropped gelugon, kyton, cornugon etc in favour of ice devil, chain devil, horned devil.... What does the picture of the torture devil look like? Does it have a very long thin beaky nose?

44 pages of description for the layers sounds like a lot more than we got in Planes of Law or the Guide to Hell, particularly with current font sizes vs 2e products.

I'm really looking forward to this book, but I agree it's a shame that there are so many reprints of 3.0 devils.

Cheers


Richard
 

Thanks for being here, morbiczer.

How detailed are the ambitions/histories of the various lords? Does it take up much space?

What is the main focus of the book? The monster section?

How did the Hag die?
 


This is what you get by squeezing everything into a compact 160-page book. Especially if the topic is about something as infinite and diverse as demons and devils...

Yet a subrace of evil elves gets an extra 74 pages (total 224) to their name...sad.

74 pages could've covered what in FCII? More info on the layers, a few Dukes of Hell, one more PrC, few more spells and feats, few more unique denizens of the Nine Hells, etc...

*sigh*

I miss pre-3.5 already...3.0 had the chunky books (and a few 3.5 ones did when it first started)
 

RichGreen said:
What does the picture of the torture devil look like? Does it have a very long thin beaky nose?
There is no "torture devil", just a pain devil also called excruciarch. It has no picture (only two of the devils in the monster section have no picture), but its description rules out it having a long thin nose. (A black spiked mask covers their faces, only showing their eyes.)

How detailed are the ambitions/histories of the various lords? Does it take up much space?
About half a page.

What is the main focus of the book? The monster section?
Chapter 1: All about Devils 7-32
The Economy of Hell
Promotion and DEmotion
Soul Harvesting
The Blood War
Devils as Monsters
Devils and Demons
A DM's Guide to Demons
Mortals and Devils
Corrupt Acts

Chapter 2: The Nine Hells 33-76
Each layer has its on section, built up as follows:
Lord of the Layer
Important Locations
Divine Realms (if there are any)
Encounters on the Layer

Chapter 3: Game Rules 77-106
New Race: Hellbred (When someone dies, and repents his sins in the moment of death, they can become helbred. They don't go to either Heaven or Hell. They fight against evil in Hell, and some will find final salvation and ascend to celestial planes, but most fail. The concept doesn't impress me much.
New Feats: 27 Feats, inculding divine feats and a new type, devil-touched feats.
Prestige Classes
New Spells: 21 spells, including 15 Investiture spells, which give you some aspects of a devil, but you become fatigued for a minute when the spell runs out.

Chapter 4: Devils 107-138 (monster section)

Chapter 5: The Lords of the Nine 141-158

I'd say that the main focus of the book is the soultrade, that's what powers the entire Hell, getting more and more souls is what motivates the devils (and achieving promotion).

How did the Hag die?
Basically out of thin air she started to grow to really-really giant size, "some force" (Asmodeus?) was using her to transform the entire layer. Her head became a fortress, her ribs mountains, her inner organs a twisting maze below the surface, etc. She basically fused with the layer. When this process was over Glasya appeared to take over the rule.

And does the book mention Geryon?
He is mentioned as the former ruler of Stygia, but no further details are given. There is also a Magical Location called Pillar of Geryon on Stygia.

This is what you get by squeezing everything into a compact 160-page book.
Yeah, it's a shame that these are limited to 160 pages, while the drow get much more pages. this book could hev used some more detail in plays (especially in the description of the layers IMO. Those seem really short.)
 

morbiczer said:
There is no "torture devil", just a pain devil also called excruciarch. It has no picture (only two of the devils in the monster section have no picture), but its description rules out it having a long thin nose. (A black spiked mask covers their faces, only showing their eyes.)

Sounds like one of the guys in Slipknot... and still we already had the Kocrachon.


Chapter 2: The Nine Hells 33-76
Each layer has its on section, built up as follows:
Lord of the Layer
Important Locations
Divine Realms (if there are any)
Encounters on the Layer

What divine realms are mentioned? Specifically are Set and Sekolah's domains in Stygia detailed? Or, as I'm sadly guessing, are only 'core/greyhawk/generic' deities given mention (unlike FC:I that in its way of being awesome actually used non-core deities from the source material when it was relevant to the topic)?



Chapter 3: Game Rules 77-106
New Race: Hellbred (When someone dies, and repents his sins in the moment of death, they can become helbred. They don't go to either Heaven or Hell. They fight against evil in Hell, and some will find final salvation and ascend to celestial planes, but most fail. The concept doesn't impress me much.

This is D&D, not pseudo-Milton. There is no Heaven/Hell dichotomy. There is no monolithic notion of sin or salvation. Hellbred make no sense whatsoever in the 4 alignment axis system of D&D.


He is mentioned as the former ruler of Stygia, but no further details are given. There is also a Magical Location called Pillar of Geryon on Stygia.

No further mention than that? *sigh*
 
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