Fiery Dragon has Sword & Sorcery license?


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They have the originals there, too. I think I'm just bad at Googling -- but a couple months ago I really tried to buy them and I couldn't find them for sale. I guess I just Googled "counter collection," found Claudio's art gallery, then tried Fiery Dragon and they were sold out.

While I was looking at RPGnow I found the new concept of standup counters -- do any of those exist for basic D&D 3.5?
 
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They have the originals there, too. I think I'm just bad at Googling -- but a couple months ago I really tried to buy them and I couldn't find them for sale. I guess I just Googled "counter collection," found Claudio's art gallery, then tried Fiery Dragon and they were sold out.

While I was looking at RPGnow I found the new concept of standup counters -- do any of those exist for basic D&D 3.5?
Counter Collection 4e Heroic 1, containing all the creatures of the Heroic tier, is printing as we speak.
 

Everyone is so worried about 4e SL not having a Druid class. If that's the case why not simply make the class? I've heard off & on that WoTC is eventually gonna come out with another book just with new classes, some that are missing from the 4e PHB (like the Bard, Monk & Druid) but others that're new.

Fiery Dragon has an opportunity to "one up" WoTC in this fashion & make it their own in the bargain.

If anything I think SLs 4e Druid (& to a lesser extent the Monk class) has an opportunity to be unique. Think of all the potential class paths &/or powers that could be put in to diversify who a Druid folows. How would a Mormo following Druid differ from one who folows Denev? How would one who follows Thulkas differ from those two, & so on & so forth.
 



Considering some of the simple quality errors that should've been caugh by all parties thus far, I'd rather it be done right than done quick.

I agree. Plus I'm only partway through buying the OGL Scarred Lands pdfs I want. I still have CCII, two player's guides, a smattering of the other scarred lands sourcebooks and modules, and the arthurian relics and rituals I want to pick up before the GSL clause kicks in.
 

Everyone is so worried about 4e SL not having a Druid class. If that's the case why not simply make the class? I've heard off & on that WoTC is eventually gonna come out with another book just with new classes, some that are missing from the 4e PHB (like the Bard, Monk & Druid) but others that're new.
Well, we've already got two druids for 4e, done by Goodman Games' Forgotten Heroes and XRP's Advanced Players guide. I think 4e SL would be best served to utilize any and all of them, including the WOTC 4e druid due out in March. They can make each Titan's worshipers a little different like the Cleric's Channel Divinity feats, and they can use either of the druids that better fit the Titan in question.
 

Cuz if WotC makes a cooler one than the one you create, then it makes your setting look lame. :)

and lets face facts...trying to one up the 1000 lbs garilla isn't such a good idea

Maybe so, but it has been done. Case in point: Monte Cooks Ranger when compared to the 3e Ranger. I'm hard-pressed to find anyone who's said that his Ranger is inferior to WoTCs 3e, 3.5 & Complete Warrior versions (in fact it's been pretty unanimous that his Ranger is superior to all the 3e WoTC incarnations of same). If he did it, Fiery Dragon can too.

If they (FDP) won't make an SL Druid, then at least have the powers &/or feats so that when the PHB2 comes out there'll already be the paths for followers of the other Titans & it'll be simply a matter of incorporating them into the class. For the sake of arguement let's say you make the class & it isn't as good as the one WoTC eventually makes: Even if you make the class & it is inferior to the one WoTC eventually comes out with, so what? There's nothing that sez that you can't "upgrade" to their version if you find yours lacking, just as there's nothing that sez you can't upgrade your own character class.

@catsclaw227; I didn't know about the Goodmans Games version. I'm not exactly interested in 4e, though it don't mean that I don't want the setting to thrive under it. I'll buy SL stuff under any edition so long as the quality is there.
 

Maybe so, but it has been done. Case in point: Monte Cooks Ranger when compared to the 3e Ranger. I'm hard-pressed to find anyone who's said that his Ranger is inferior to WoTCs 3e, 3.5 & Complete Warrior versions (in fact it's been pretty unanimous that his Ranger is superior to all the 3e WoTC incarnations of same). If he did it, Fiery Dragon can too.

Yeah, but the official version was already out when Monte made his ranger. The problem here is that without knowing the official version, any one that's created elsewhere might be lame.
 

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