Firefly

It may not be your cup of tea FD...

... but "Nights of Cabiria" is a fine film. It's Fellini, and the title character is played by his wife, who name escapes me at the moment.

It's interesting, mainly, because it humanizes Cabiria. She's not merely what she does to get by, she's a human being. It hardly glamorizes her profession, nor does it condemn. I realize that most media representations of prostitution glamorize, demonize, and exploit said characters, usually in some awkward combination of the three. But give it chance, if you you're up for subtitles {an assumption. Can you speak Italian?}. Also, it was filmed in the late 1950's, its not explicit.

I don't mean to be preachy, but I always feel the need to respond to someone who categorically refuses to read/watch/experience specific kinds of art {OK, I'm not going to bat for hardcore pornography, well, not here anyway... Hmmm, but I have recommended Legend of the Overfiend to some folks...}

I'm not suggesting you'll find this in "Firefly", but in works about matters you find personally repugnant, there is the chance you'll see some spark of yourself in those far removed from your experience, a glimpse of the universal human condition.

I'm getting off my soapbox, dismantling it, and burning the pieces...
 
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Re: It may not be your cup of tea FD...

Mallus said:

I'm not suggesting you'll find this in "Firefly", but in works about matters you find personally repugnant, there is the chance you'll see some spark of yourself in those far removed from your experience, a glimpse of the universal human condition.

Err.. my neighborhood had its share of prostitutes (well, before Poughkeepsie's own serial killer murdered some of them in the area) - it is not a world I am unaware of, and it is hardly part of the human condition.

Besides- I have not liked Buffy.. I don't see why this would be any different since it seems to be the exact same type of show.

FD
 

I'm really looking forward to it, but get the feeling it wont last given its timeslot and the way networks NEVER give shows a chance to develop an audience these days.
 

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Furn_Darkside said:


Err.. my neighborhood had its share of prostitutes (well, before Poughkeepsie's own serial killer murdered some of them in the area) - it is not a world I am unaware of, and it is hardly part of the human condition.



FD

Uhm...if it were not part of 'the human condition', it wouldn't be 'the world's oldest profession'.

Name a society which has a money-based economy and which does NOT have prostitution.
 

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Lizard said:


Uhm...if it were not part of 'the human condition', it wouldn't be 'the world's oldest profession'.

a phrase that makes no sense...

substance abuse, murder, and rape are also also common in almost every society- none of them are part of the human condition.

FD
 

New FOX sci-fi TV series

I hope that FIREFLY will have that Traveller-like feel without the game interfering with the series format.

Just a reminder, the first (aka series premiere) episode will air this Friday, September 20. Set your VCR or leave your Friday Night schedule free.
 
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I'm definitely going to check out "Firefly". I can't possibly pass on Joss Whedon's take on the vastly underutilized "space western" genre.

The only thing that makes me skeptical where "Firefly" is concerned is the re-shoot of the pilot episode. Apparently, Joss shot a two hour pilot that really went in depth on the backstory of a few of the characters. The network saw it and said "where are the explosions???", so the original pilot was shelved and a new one shot.

BTW, I think the whole prostitute thing should be considered with an eye towards the genre of traditional Westerns.
 

BadMojo said:
The only thing that makes me skeptical where "Firefly" is concerned is the re-shoot of the pilot episode. Apparently, Joss shot a two hour pilot that really went in depth on the backstory of a few of the characters. The network saw it and said "where are the explosions???", so the original pilot was shelved and a new one shot.

It's supposed to be retooled a bit and reaired as a "origins story" later on in the season. You can find the original pilot online pretty easily.

Oh, and the prostitution. Let's actually see the show before we start making broad statements, aye?
 

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Furn_Darkside said:
a phrase that makes no sense...

substance abuse, murder, and rape are also also common in almost every society- none of them are part of the human condition.

FD

Now THIS is a discussion that begs definitions - and a totally different message board, most likely.

As for Firefly, I love Joss Whedon's other works, and will be regularly taping Friday nights on Fox thanks to him.
 
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