First Look at the Complete Divine

[Westwind]

Most of the stuff in here is for PCs and pantheon questions generally fall to the DM. The best I could find is a reference early in the book to "aberrant" gods--gods whose worship isn't kosher with the clerics of the dominant pantheon. They have suggestions for serving a specific deity, a specific pantheon, an abstract principle, and nature. I suppose you could work out some sort of meshing of pantheon-specific clerics.

 

[Ilmyryn]

Regarding the favored Soul, is the CD version exactly the same as that in the Minis Handbook?

I would like to see them revise the known spell progression. Did anyone else notice it waas all wonky? after about 6th or 8th level you only learn new spells every other level. This is rather lame for a player to go 2 levels without learning any new spells, and i don't see it giving any particular balance to the class.

I think it would be much better if it followed the sorcerer progression where at even levels you learn new spells of the new level youc an cast, and at the odd levels you learn spells in all your non maxed levels you know.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

How much of the book do the PrCs take up? I'm hoping there won't be a repeat of the Comple Warrior debacle...

 

[Westwind]

How much of the book do the PrCs take up? I'm hoping there won't be a repeat of the Comple Warrior debacle...

191 pages total, prestige classes run from page 19 to 76. There are a lot, but there is a decent balance with feats and spells.

Spell progression for the Favored Soul (again, don't have the MiniH) looks like what has been described in this thread. Spells known for levels 12-13, etc. is unchanged. I'm not a huge fan of the Favored Soul, but I think it's worth noting that with all the divine feats in this book, turning undead means a lot more than it once did so if you pick Favored Soul over Cleric you miss out on a lot of options.

 

[Psion]

How much of the book do the PrCs take up? I'm hoping there won't be a repeat of the Comple Warrior debacle...

I dig prestige classes and find them to be a great tool for the game when done properly. I was relatively pleased with the ones in CW.

The "CW debacle", as I define it, was the new core classes and the nerfing of feats.

 

[Li Shenron]

The "CW debacle", as I define it, was the new core classes and the nerfing of feats.

I agree that CW core classes were a debacle, but also I didn't like to see all the 5-levels PrCls as well. In fact I was mostly worried to see the same done in CD.

Westwind, could you write down the PrCl list with the number of levels each?

I know that it may not mean much, but IMXP the PrCls which are not developed over 10 levels are usually very poor...

 

[Westwind]

Here are the prestige classes. I've included spell casting levels as well so (5/10) would mean it's a 10 level prestige class that adds 5 caster levels. 0/5 is a 5 level prestige class with no spell casting.

Black Flame Zealot (5/10)
Blighter (10/10--unique list)
Church Inquisitor (10/10)
Consecrated Harrier (10/10--unique list)
Contemplative (10/10)
Divine Crusader (10/10--unique list)
Divine Oracle (10/10)
Entropomancer (5/10)
Evangelist (0/5)
Geomancer (10/10)
Holy Liberator (10/10--unique list)
Hospitaler (7/10)
Pious Templar (10/10--unique list)
Radiant Servant of Pelor (10/10)
Rainbow Servant (6/10)
Sacred Exorcist (10/10)
Sacred Fist (8/10)
Seeker of the Misty Isle (8/10)
Shining Blade of Heironeous (5/10)
Stormlord (10/10)
Temple Raider of Olidammara (10/10--unique list)
Ur-Priest (10/10--unique list)
Void Disciple (8/13)
Warpriest (5/10)

With the exception of the Ur-Priest and the Blighter (who get 9th level spells in 10 levels, but give up prior spellcasting ability) and the Divine Champion (who gets access to the spells of a single domain only) reference to unique lists indicates a slow spell progression and access to spellcasting at all 10 levels requires a high ability score.

 

[The_Baldman]

If you could post any info on the Contemplative, Divine Oracle, and Seeker of the Misty Isle (?) PrCs, I'd really appreciate it. Mostly any notable changes for the first two (can arcane casters still become Oracles?) and just the general gist of the latter. Thanks!

or ya know Bill we have a shiney new copy of that book for the charity raffle next week at MVC

 

[Psiblade]

What are the Divine Crusader and Stormlord like?

-Psiblade

 

[Bill Muench]

or ya know Bill we have a shiney new copy of that book for the charity raffle next week at MVC

Believe me, if I can't find a copy beforehand, I'll be entering the raffle.

Gotta get familiar with all the new spells we'll be deluged with at Origins, afterall.