johnsemlak
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Regarding the favored Soul, is the CD version exactly the same as that in the Minis Handbook?
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Alright, sorry about the gap in answers. I'll try to get to everyone.
Yup, a nice even 20.
Rainbow Servant is an arcane class. You basically worship couatl and gain access to Cleric domains over time. At 10th level (which won't happen before 15th character level and 11th level caster) you can add Cleric spells to your arcane list(!)
Void Disciple uses either arcane or divine spells as its prereq.
The Arcane Disciple feat allows you to add the spells from a domain to your arcane spell list. That seems pretty powerful to me. You need a high enough Wisdom to cast them and use Wisdom to determine DC.
Yes and yes to the spellcasting.
Yes to BAB.
Yes to Pious Templar's saves.
No to Holy Liberator's saves--they only get good Fort.
No. It looks like Sacred Flames (described earlier) replaces it.
It's very very rules thin. It struck me that there's a lot of room for other settings to publish their own relics in the near future. There's a feat included that you need in addition to the appropriate creation feat and the discount formula of 400 x spell slot level x minimum cleric level.
For the lesser deities it's even briefer. Here's an example:
Lirr
Lesser Goddess (Chaotic Good)
Lirr usually appears as a teenage girl carrying a picturebook. Her temples are small, but her clerics are influential patrons for artists and bards, commissioning new art, poetry, and song.
Portfolio: Poetry, art.
Domains: Chaos, Good, Knowledge, Magic, Travel.
Did no one get the movie reference? I've got to get out of the local theater.
No, but that's clearly the focus. There's the abovementioned arcane stuff and prestige classes like Pious Templar that non-casters can take.
Spirit Shaman and Favored Soul.
First off, I've had a huge crush on Nastassja Kinski for about 10-12 years now--I love your avatar. But, the answer to the question is none.
Yup, a nice even 20.
The Geomancer requires you to be able to cast 2nd level arcane and divine spells.
Rainbow Servant is an arcane class. You basically worship couatl and gain access to Cleric domains over time. At 10th level (which won't happen before 15th character level and 11th level caster) you can add Cleric spells to your arcane list(!)
Void Disciple uses either arcane or divine spells as its prereq.
The Arcane Disciple feat allows you to add the spells from a domain to your arcane spell list. That seems pretty powerful to me. You need a high enough Wisdom to cast them and use Wisdom to determine DC.
Yes and yes to the spellcasting.
Yes to BAB.
Yes to Pious Templar's saves.
No to Holy Liberator's saves--they only get good Fort.
No. It looks like Sacred Flames (described earlier) replaces it.
It's very very rules thin. It struck me that there's a lot of room for other settings to publish their own relics in the near future. There's a feat included that you need in addition to the appropriate creation feat and the discount formula of 400 x spell slot level x minimum cleric level.
For the lesser deities it's even briefer. Here's an example:
Lirr
Lesser Goddess (Chaotic Good)
Lirr usually appears as a teenage girl carrying a picturebook. Her temples are small, but her clerics are influential patrons for artists and bards, commissioning new art, poetry, and song.
Portfolio: Poetry, art.
Domains: Chaos, Good, Knowledge, Magic, Travel.
Did no one get the movie reference? I've got to get out of the local theater.
No, but that's clearly the focus. There's the abovementioned arcane stuff and prestige classes like Pious Templar that non-casters can take.
Spirit Shaman and Favored Soul.
First off, I've had a huge crush on Nastassja Kinski for about 10-12 years now--I love your avatar. But, the answer to the question is none.
Hey, Teutonic women rock--check my location 
Forgot to post the Sacred Fist's prereqs:
BAB +4
Knowledge (religion) 8 ranks
Combat Casting, Combat Reflexes, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist
Able to cast 1st-level divine spells
It does get good BAB
The answer to this is an unsatisfying "kinda." (Note: I mean unsatisfying because it's a weak answer, not because of some problem with relics). If you don't have the True Believer feat you need to give up a divine spell slot to use a relic, so Clerics and Druids can use them without a problem assuming they have a high enough slot. There are 2 relics that require the sacrifice of a 4th level slot (so Paladins and Rangers could use them in theory), everything else ranges from 5-8. However, there is no reason that you couldn't design a relic that eats a lower level slot so any divine caster could use it.
Forgot to post the Sacred Fist's prereqs:
BAB +4
Knowledge (religion) 8 ranks
Combat Casting, Combat Reflexes, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist
Able to cast 1st-level divine spells
It does get good BAB
The answer to this is an unsatisfying "kinda." (Note: I mean unsatisfying because it's a weak answer, not because of some problem with relics). If you don't have the True Believer feat you need to give up a divine spell slot to use a relic, so Clerics and Druids can use them without a problem assuming they have a high enough slot. There are 2 relics that require the sacrifice of a 4th level slot (so Paladins and Rangers could use them in theory), everything else ranges from 5-8. However, there is no reason that you couldn't design a relic that eats a lower level slot so any divine caster could use it.
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RigaMortus
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What I was hoping for was some "rules" or guidelines on mixing gods from different pantheons. In the campaign I play in, we do this a lot. We have the standard Greyhawk gods, we use (rarely) the FR gods, we use nameless gods (from the Freeport setting if anyone is curious), we use Nordic gods (Thor and Odin and such) and we even use the Rokugan pantheon, which worships mostly spirits over gods.
It would be nice to have some guidelines of what happens when a devoute Thor worshipper runs into a god from Greyhawk. How would one react? Does the god hold sway over them? What happens when a god with two of the same portfolio shows up?
It would be nice to have some guidelines of what happens when a devoute Thor worshipper runs into a god from Greyhawk. How would one react? Does the god hold sway over them? What happens when a god with two of the same portfolio shows up?
