D&D (2024) First playtest thread! One D&D Character Origins.

SakanaSensei

Adventurer
Again, thats what the attribute array is for.
Want to play a strong and clumsy elf? Dex is the dump stat and Str is the highest. Sure you will still be more dexterous than a clumsy human, but not as good as nearly any elf. To them you will be clumsy.
And you will overpower most elves, be equal to many humans but still struggle against strong orcs.

In the end it comes down to 2 things.
1. People somehow thinking that different fictional races being different is somehow racist (see @Faolyn's post). Which strangely only seems to be a problem in fantasy, not in scifi. I haven't heard any complains about Vulcans.
2. People refusing to play anything not minmaxed with an 18 in the primary attribute which imo is not something you should cater to. Thats not role playing. No one is preventing them from playing an elf barbarian or orc wizard except their inability to play something not minmaxed.
I wanna play my goblin paladin and not suck and you. can't. stop. me. And papa WotC agrees.
 

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Ixal

Hero
I wanna play my goblin paladin and not suck and you. can't. stop. me. And papa WotC agrees.
Having a 16 as primary attribute isn't sucking and WotC would do well that instead of catering to minmaxers to always only take the most optimal choice to instead educate them to play a role and do what makes most sense from a role playing perspective even when its not the most optimal.
 



Ixal

Hero
You do yourself a disservice by assuming everyone who likes floating ASIs (or background based ASIs) is just a filthy minmaxer. Most of my characters don't even start with 18s.
I have discussed ASI many times on this forum and always the defense for floting ASI will came down to "I want my 18" in the end.
 


Cadence

Legend
Supporter
You do yourself a disservice by assuming everyone who likes floating ASIs (or background based ASIs) is just a filthy minmaxer. Most of my characters don't even start with 18s.

Is there a particular benefit for the character from the floating ASI if they're not going for the 18 or the easily increased 17?
 



Ixal

Hero
Narrative importance being put into how a character has lived their life instead of how they were born is the end of it, really, for me. I just also want to be competent while pulling off a character concept.
1. A -2 (which equals a -5% chance) doesn't make you incompetent (unless competent = optimized). Oh no, when rolling 100 times you fail 5 additional times (statistically). What incompetency! Literally unplayable.
2. Living your life = attribute array, not ASI.
 
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