D&D (2024) First playtest thread! One D&D Character Origins.

TwoSix

Dirty, realism-hating munchkin powergamer
Having a 16 as primary attribute isn't sucking and WotC would do well that instead of catering to minmaxers to always only take the most optimal choice to instead educate them to play a role and do what makes most sense from a role playing perspective even when its not the most optimal.
Yea, no.
 

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Medic

Neutral Evil
People refusing to play anything not minmaxed with an 18 in the primary attribute which imo is not something you should cater to. Thats not role playing. No one is preventing them from playing an elf barbarian or orc wizard except their inability to play something not minmaxed.
Everyone else seems to talk up the "fun role-playing" aspect of floating ASIs and playing fast and loose with racial traits. I can't be the only one that sees the latest trend expand the opportunities for optimization. As an example, when Tasha's was released, I could make a dwarf wizard that has the highest starting Intelligence possible and comes with medium armor right out of the gate without having to sacrifice anything - something I could not do prior.
 

Cadence

Legend
Supporter
Narrative importance being put into how a character has lived their life instead of how they were born is the end of it, really, for me. I just also want to be competent while pulling off a character concept.

Why isn't where you decide to put your points with the point buy able to do narrative? It feels odd to me that it matters if your Elf has a 16 Str because you put a 16 there, or because you put a 14+2 there.

On the other hand, I'm not sure why doing some things makes one better as a background. (Being shat on as an urchin/ beggar makes one wise and quick feels like a message I dislike in real life. Maybe being wise and quick let them survive better as an urchin?).

Is there a downside to just giving everyone a floating +1/+2 and letting them justify it however they want. (+2 Str from rumoured giant blood or being a blacksmith or just being big for no particular reason)
 


Azzy

ᚳᚣᚾᛖᚹᚢᛚᚠ
1. A -2 (which equals a -5% chance) doesn't make you incompetent (unless competent = optimized). Oh no, when rolling 100 times you fail 5 times more (statistically). What incompetency! Literally unplayable.
2. Living your life = attribute array, not ASI.
Look, this line of discussion has been done to death a million posts over. Please drop it.
 

Ixal

Hero
Everyone else seems to talk up the "fun role-playing" aspect of floating ASIs and playing fast and loose with racial traits. I can't be the only one that sees the latest trend expand the opportunities for optimization. As an example, when Tasha's was released, I could make a dwarf wizard that has the highest starting Intelligence possible and comes with medium armor right out of the gate without having to sacrifice anything - something I could not do prior.
No, this is what happens. People who won't play anything without an 18 certainly won't pass up on this chance. But its hard to defend floating ASI with "I can optimize more". Only 1, maybe 2 posters in all the ASI discussions I have seen were honest enough and said they like floating ASI because they can optimize.
All others tried to argue that it "allows them to play different race/class combinations" which makes no sense as even with fixed ASI you can play all race/class combinations you want if you do without the 18.
 

Azzy

ᚳᚣᚾᛖᚹᚢᛚᚠ
Everyone else seems to talk up the "fun role-playing" aspect of floating ASIs and playing fast and loose with racial traits. I can't be the only one that sees the latest trend expand the opportunities for optimization. As an example, when Tasha's was released, I could make a dwarf wizard that has the highest starting Intelligence possible and comes with medium armor right out of the gate without having to sacrifice anything - something I could not do prior.
It can do both. Groovy.
 


Cadence

Legend
Supporter
Were any of these changes things that are unexpected based on recent trends?

Thinking of the future UAs, are there any big things that have been telegraphed about the classes? Or are all of those changes likely much smaller?
 


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